D2 or 154CM Which do you like better?

Seeing I'm new here
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, I never had the experience using D2. 154CM I have and I like it much so. Holds an edge extremely well, somewhat easy to sharpen, and has good rust resistance qualities. I do like blades that hold an edge a long time, but I prefer rust resistance over edge holding abilities.
I don't mind sharpening a blade, actually it is fun, but I hate seeing and trying to remove rust. So to answer your question DDR, which ever has better rust resistance properties would get my vote!

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I like your CPM-420V mostly Darrel, why change
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[This message has been edited by TitaniumKnutt (edited 12-04-2000).]
 
D2 any day of the week.
Bob Dozier knows how to work his steel and his knives kick major a$$.
 
D2, unless it is a lot more expensive than 154CM. In that case, 154CM.

From what I have seen in mine, D2 will hold a better edge, but not so much so that it is worth a lot more money.

Why not BG42? Is it that much more expensive than either of the two you mention? I guess it's a little presumptuous to even ask, but it seems to be in the same league, and I have found it to combine the best of both, and then some.

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How about BG-42 or VG-10? I like D2, but I'm a stainless kinda guy (exception to the rule being 154cm / ats34.)
 
D2. Excellent for a small folder.
If the length of the blade was to be longer, I´d say 154 CM.
 
I prefer D-2 anytime, mostly because ATS-34 or 154-CM cost twice as much for me.
The way I heat-treath D-2, the surface suffers from decarb....it actually can get mirrorpolished and will be much more stainless then ATS-34, the only drawback is that you have to do a lot of grinding after hardening to get the edge....about 1-2 mm off in all directions.
For the record, I'd look into D-3 (Böhler K 100) or the powdersteel copy of D-2 (Böhler 190 KPM). The last one seems to be about D-2 stainless, but cuts like twice better...I haven't seen cutting abilities like this in any steel. Pierre reverdy designed it for using knives....this is a steel designed for knives...I would say, check it out for yourself...I have some left...mail me.

greetz, Bart.

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I would prefer D2 anytime. Edge holding and toughness are better than 154CM and stain resistance is at least not much worse.

To Bart: Böhler K190PM is powdersteel, but NOT D2. It is close to 1.2380 (which is about the same as D7), but still a little different. It's a patented steel.

Achim
 
My source tells that Böhler K190PM is the same as X220CrVMo13 4 and contains:
C 2,2 %; Cr 13,0 %; Mo 1,0 % and V 3,8 %


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Achim, by copy I ment more carbon and vanadium added....most powdersteels have these added. In excact composition, it would be like D-7, true. And Böhlers steels are available in the US. Ivan Campos in Brazil uses them.
I would prefer D-2, to answer Darrel's question. And the way you treath 'm, Achim. Thanks.


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As to Burkes question- I am not a metallurgists nor a maker but the texture and the finish of D2 steel in this case, does not necessarily mean it will not make for a smooth operating folder. The appearance of a high polish is not readily possible but that doesn' t mean its texture is not smooth. Does this make sense? If you' ve ever handled any of Bob Doziers folders and have experienced their buttery smooth actions, you' ll know what real smoothness is! When he related to me concerning my inquiry as to the type of lube he used in his folders at our last meeting at the NY knife show he stated that he leaves the bronze washers at the blade pivot BONE DRY.

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Nakano
 
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