<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">So if Chris isn't a liar, then Lenny must be? I don't buy that. I assume that both are telling the truth. Lenny did not abuse the knife, and Chris, in examining the damage, honestly thought it had been abused. But this still brings us back to the first question, could not the same damage been the result of a subtle "defect" in either workmanship or materials that did not show up for some time?</font>
If there had been any "subtle defects" Chris would have found them. It's what he does. That's my whole point here. There weren't any covered defects. If there were, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
We, as spectators after the fact, have no idea what Lenny did with that knife. It's obvious that, in his mind, it, whatever it was, was not abuse. It is also obvious that whatever Chris found when he examined the knife showed that it had been used beyond the parameters of the warranty.
Regardless of what you and some others would have liked the warranty to say or think it should have said, those are the facts. Anything else is speculation. Did Lenny "abuse" the knife? In his mind, no. Did he really? We don't know:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"Gee, I didn't think it would hurt my Jeep to drive it over that cliff....They're made for rough use aren't they?"</font>
The point here is that, whether we like it or not, we have to accept the fact that CRK warranty is what it is and that Chris Reeve serviced the knife according to that warranty.
If that warranty prevents you from buying the best production folder in the world, or causes you to sell the one you have, then that's your decision and it's between you and yourself. However, if you use it as an occasion to criticize the reputation or integrity of someone that many of us hold in high regard, then you shouldn't be surprised if some of us step up and disagree.
Mr. Stamp, I don't offer warranties. I honor the warranties offered by the various manufacturers, when required by my agreements with them. Others I refer to the manufacturers who prefer to service their warranties themselves. (Most do).
I never said that an unconditional lifetime warranty cannot be done. I said that [bold]MOST[/bold] manufacturers do not offer such warrantys. I also said that it is not good business to do so. That is my opinion and it refers to manufacturers who produce significant numbers of product marketed to the general public. The potential for abuse is too great IMO.
I also understand that many custom makers do offer that type of warranty. They almost have to, in order to sell their product. They also have absolute control over all aspects of the manufacture of their product. Their market is very specific and predictable. Their prices reflect the anticipated cost of service or repair. In other words, it is not the same thing.
As to the manufacturers you refer to who offer such warranties, as I stated earlier, I don't doubt that they exist, I just don't know who they all are.
All of the ones I carry (and there are many) have some limits on their warranties. The only exception to that would be Busse Combat.
As to this issue, is is also quite simple to me. The damage to the Sebenza in question was caused by it being used or treated beyond the limits established by the warranty as written. No clarification is required.
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Dennis Wright
Wright Knife & Sporting Goods
La Mesa, CA
1-800-400-1980
wrightknife@ixpres.com
("Have a knife day!")
[This message has been edited by Dennis Wright (edited 01-21-2001).]
