Damascus ring

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whats the caratage on that diamond? I haven't seen a split ring like that before. Wouldn't that design in gold be too soft and prone to opening out and losing the diamond?


I haven't found Mrs Right yet, But a ring like that one in gold would definately be the ype of design i'd be lookign at giving her :) I'm not a fan of lots and lots of little diamonds in a cluster, and neither am i fond of the designs which have the diamonds sticking out in the air above the ring just asking to get snagged.
 
That style is called a tension mount. The metal is hardened and given a spring tension that holds the stone in. I
When made in gold ,the metal is alloyed so it takes a spring set with the right HT. As a jeweler, I am personally not in love with this style of ring. They can not be sized without return to the manufacturer, and as you pointed out, there is not much holding the stone in. But, for older ,less active women, these work very well.
In a metal that takes a strong hard set, like the damascus ring shown, the stone is probably very tight.
Stacy
 
The settings are actually pretty safe in a metal like titanium, which is both hard and springy. I've done thousands of them. There is around 80 pounds of preload holding the stone in. That's enough so that you could yank on those prongs with all your might and never get anything to move. The sidewalls have diamond shaped grooves holding them in. As Bladsmth mentioned, gold or platinum rings need to be very specially heat treated to get them to work. There is actually a patent on that process, so that normal jewelers are prevented from doing them. This also means that they normally cost a couple thousand dollars. Some of the earlier patents may have expired by now though. They can be sized by the manufacturer by machining the grooves that hold the stone deeper to get a smaller size or grinding the ID of the ring to go up in size. It is limited to maybe around a quarter to half size change though.

The stone in the picture is about 1 carat.
 
I do make stainless damascus rings, by the way. Thanks for the recommendation, Deker!

I do want to make one statement regarding the suggestion that damascus isn't suitable for rings, because it's come up a couple times here on Bladeforums from folks who don't make stainless damascus, or make stainless damascus rings, and I do both. ;)

Since I switched from carbon steels to 304L & 316L some 6-7 years ago, I have yet to see one that deteriorates in any way whatsoever. No tarnishing, rusting or discoloration save soap scum, which a simple polishing cloth removes in seconds. I have made them for doctors, mechanics, veterinarians and people who get their hands filthy and / or wash them 10 times a day. No issues whatsoever.

I do line them with precious metals to make sizing issues easier and to add a sense of additional value, though it's also a visual concern by the time there's rails & bezels involved.


Thanks. :)
 
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My wife and I have lined, stainless damascus wedding bands from Mr. Loose and we're very pleased with them.

With all due respect, sir, you're liable to get chewed out for linking your website here without a craftsman-type membership. I submit that such a membership here is very much worthwhile. :)
 
True, but it's still a relevant subject. A maker who was mentioned found it, responded, and here we are.

And BTW, it's a relevant subject, that had its last post whenever. :p
 
Not a bad necro at all, not a long thread, and continues the topic seamlessly. He didn't just resurrect the thread, he added valuable information.

thegeek574 said:
English class was traumatic for me. Thanks for bringing back bad memories ;)
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Bah, humbug! No Soup For You! (Peanut butter & jelly sammich for lunch. :( )
 
Lucky for you, my 12" steel rule wasn't handy, or I would have employed it to smack your knuckles!

Just kiddin, friend. :)


Esav Benyamin said:
He didn't just resurrect the thread, he added valuable information.
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Seems fair to me. Pony up for a maker/craftsman membership and I assure you, Mr. Loose, that it will pay for itself. :thumbup:
 
Thanks James. :)

I only found the thread because it had gotten an awful lot of hits in my own website's referrals as of this month, that being December of 2012. Someone's reading this thread, so necro or not, since there's incorrect information, I figured I should chime in. Funny thing about the internet... it just keeps going and going. I'm the kind of guy that thinks information from a couple thousand years ago is worthwhile! Honestly I didn't look at the dates. Certainly didn't mean to step on any advertisey toes.

And now, back to making money instead of ponying up. ;)
 
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And now, back to making money instead of ponying up. ;)
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The two are not mutually exclusive. I pay for, and profit from my yearly membership here with one sale, and I'm quite certain that you would, too!
 
I know this is a way old thread, but I am currently working on a a damascus ring project myself. Wile trying to find the best prices on silver for a liner, I came across ring liners for "metal clay". I have no idea what metal clay is but the ring liners look to me like the easiest way to line a damascus ring. They are already sized, 4 and 8 mm wide, and are 21 gauge .999 fine silver.

http://www.metalclayfindings.com/Catalog/rings.aspx

I'm going to be ordering at least one of them to try it out. At this point I'm just not sure if I want to silver solder the liner in or peen it as Stacy suggests in his tutorial on the first page. Hope this help's any one else trying their hand at damascus rings.
 
Forging ANYTHING is dangerous. Its relative, but 1500f+ temperatures regardless of the material donèt play well with eyes and skin, not to mention our combustible homes.
 
My wedding ring is damascus - unlined - from Chris Ploof. I have not had any deterioration or discoloring at least over the past 5 years. I quite like it. My wife knows me so well. :D

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