Danny are you REALLY trying to become a ninja, or just ninja martial arts?

I learned how to say about ten things on my flight over there, then maybe another twenty or thirty my first week. They were all I ever needed to learn...They usually started talking to me in English after the first couple of things I said. I assumed that it was because I said them so badly it hurt. I was lucky to have an ex-patriot American dive instructor...he took me around and taught me a lot that other folks probably never even saw. As I said...it was the most totally foreign place I have been.
 
Danny wrote:
the girls are all really cute. I look at cute butts all day long. The women dont seem to notice my weight, or at least, its so different from your average skinny japanese man that they like it because it is, in a sense, exotic. i got asked out by pretty girls here. that was the first time in my life that ever happened. you should have seen me my first month, i was mr ego.

Sounds good to me - and you wanna come back ?! ;)

On an interesting note, I've subscribed for several years to an email newsletter put out by Peter Payne , an ex-pat American who is married to a Japanese lady and lives in Gunma Prefecture where they run a business. Real interesting insights from a guy from San Diego who's acclimated pretty well to a very different culture.
 
Danny, this is also a personal question and dont answer if you dont want to. I think I remember you saying that your wife is Japanese but I am not 100% sure about that. Assuming that is true:

How much of the myths about America (and Japan for that matter) has she (and other people you are good friends with) overcome? Does she/they think America is overly dangerous? Does she/they recognize that Japanese culture is not THE BEST culture in the world? Etc... These are just things that come to mind from hearing you guys talk, and I'm not sure if that last one is believed or not.

On a side note about the word gaijin. I took some japanese and I think jin notes a country of origin (nihonjin, amerikajin, etc...). So does gai mean some thing like not japan? Basicly like the opposite of Nepal Ho? Heh, I am probably way off on this but my curiosity got the best of me :).

I looked at www.winjutsu.com and the only one listed in Oregon is in portland. Do you know of any other directories that would have reputable schools?
 
Yes, Takako is 100% Japanese.

"How much of the myths about America (and Japan for that matter) has she (and other people you are good friends with) overcome? "
Does she/they think America is overly dangerous?
Does she/they recognize that Japanese culture is not THE BEST culture in the world? "

To a large extent, the myths are founded in linguistic mistakes and conceptual misunderstandings. Your average Japanese person is not afraid of being the victim of a crime in America. They are afraid of being caught and killed by an American police officer while in the commission of a crime.
Cops over here dont do anything, and they sure dont go looking for problems.
This realisation was a shock to me, but I couldnt avoid that conclusion.
(The Japanese identify with the criminal, not the victim or police officer)

They say and do many things every day that are extremely offensive, ignorant, backwards, racist and stupid. When you call them out for it, as I have, they will usually explain the remark as being a "linguistic misunderstanding." When that is not feasible, they claim that they "did not think deeply" about what they said and therefore they are not guilty of any offense.

They will use the phrase "America is very dangerous" the same way we say "how's the weather?"
The truth is that what they really meant to say was "America is very free. You have to use your mind and take responsibility for yourself and your own words and actions."

To them, that IS dangerous.

The Japanese are like the last uncivilized tribe discovered by Anthropolgists. Their culture, identity, religion, beliefs, all of it is rolled into one big thing and not viewed or even understood as being separate. Technically, they have a democracy and separation of church and state.
In practice, mentally speaking, most of the country is a kurosawa film.

My wife and the rest of my Japanese family have learned so much since we got married, I am very proud of them. I never asked them to disown any part of their own "Japaneseness," but they have thrown away their Japanese baskets full of assumptions about the USA.

The modern myths are not traditional things in Japan. They are recent (since WW2) That's the weird part. Older Japanese people are very friendly and fearless people. It's the younger generations (50 and younger) who are full of fear and myth and superstition and ignorance.

Alex Kerr believes that this is a reflection of the government's brainwashing that was necessary to create a selfless work force that is the source of Japan's economic power. I am inclined to agree.

There is a television program on every night here where they do dramatic recreations of violent crimes in America. (graphic, horrifying stuff) That's fine to talk about. Apparently, however, if you talk about violent crime in Japan, then you must "hate Japan."

But, like I have said before, There are things I love about Japan.

Old Martial arts (Ninjutsu, kyudo, I love my Senseis, they are great men. They dont carry those common assumptions for the most part, and are considered "strange" by other Japanese people.)

Horimono (old style japanese tattooing)
Music (old style like Biwa and hichiriki)
Castles
brilliantly colored seasons
cute girls
cool vinyl figurines (i have the entire onmyoji demons and gods collection)
cool movie props (i have the all-metal Blade runner blaster and leather holster)
access to japanese antiques and weapons

and other things...

(If you send an email to them I bet they can help you find a school. I know there are several guys up there teaching...)
 
You have to use your mind and take responsibility for yourself and your own words and actions.

I'm sorry but to me this does not sound like america. I'm sure that in comparison to japan it is but I am still amazed at how people can get away with blaming others for their stupid actions (suit against mc donalds for making them fat, suit against mc donalds for spilling coffee on them selves, what ever made sthil put the warning "do not stop chain saw with hands" on their products, media blaming a weapon for a crime instead of the wielder, etc...). I think I am starting to get afraid of japan :(. But really I am glad at least some people in japan choose not to be ignorant.

This is more inline with your MA training. How would it be viewed if you were robbed and you decided to defend your self? Would you be responsible if the other guy got a bruise :rolleyes: or would no one care either way?
 
Very insightful, DIJ. Some of my own experiences make a bit more sense now.

My first few stops in Japan, I found the citizens to be "politely rude." I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. ;) While trying to navigate, I'd ask people for directions or assistance and they'd tell me that they didn't understand English; they'd then listen in on my English conversation with my companions.

After some thought on the subject, I had a revelation: here I am in Sasebo, a Japanese town full of American sailors. Even stateside, Navy towns can be an interesting contrast - the locals love us (as well they should for the economic benefits we provide to them) yet hate our all-too-common lack of judgement and restraint, especially when alcohol is involved. Every night droves of sailors - essentially an occupation force that's been in place since WWII - raised hell, acted impolitely, and otherwise made the locals uncomfortable. I tried to place myself in their shoes and decided that I wouldn't be happy about that situation either.

I learned a few pleasantries in Japanese, tried to gain a basic understanding of etiquette (at least as much as would be expected from a westerner), stopped blowing my nose in public and found that the locals were much easier to deal with. They all spoke English - I just had to ask them in Japanese. They were exceedingly polite and helpful when they saw that I was trying to meet them halfway. My trips to Japan were much better after that.

And, as I mentioned, the chow was outstanding. :D
 
Yoippari,
I know where you are coming from. I do. Hey, I AM an American. I lived in America for 31 years. But let me give you an example of what I am trying to describe.

Say you are in school and the teacher asks you the answer to a question.
In Japan, you will lean over to your best friends and have a discussion about what to say and then maybe one of your friends will answer the question.
The Japanese teachers are OK with that.

This is a pervasive idea in Japan. Do you see what I mean?

Here's another example:

When my wife started her last job, the company asked ME to sign a contract saying that I would pay for any damages or costs that my wife might incur while she was employed there.

I said "What ?!?"


If you meet some 70-something year old person in Japan, they will probably invite you home for dinner.

If you meet a 40-something year old, they will stare at you like you have an axe stuck in your forehead and whisper "abunai gaijin" to their friends.

(abunai gaijin means "dangerous foreigner")
 
In case you missed the second questions in both my posts
On a side note about the word gaijin. I took some japanese and I think jin notes a country of origin (nihonjin, amerikajin, etc...). So does gai mean some thing like "not Japan"? Basicly like the opposite of Nepal Ho? Heh, I am probably way off on this but my curiosity got the best of me :).
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This is more inline with your MA training. How would it be viewed if you were robbed and you decided to defend your self? Would you be responsible if the other guy got a bruise :rolleyes: or would no one care either way?

I just realized I hijacked this thread. :D At least the second question is on topic.

I do see what you mean. Instead of blaming some one else (like here), they just act as a whole and individual talent/skill/fault is minimized. Or am I completely wrong?
 
sorry.
gaijin means foreigner.
outside of our group.

i dont like it and most of the foreigners i know dont either.

when someone calls me a gaijin, i call them "imojin"
(potato man)
it means "hillbilly" basically....

i dont know the answer to question #2, but i imagine if i beat them up or hurt them, the cops wouldnt do anything.
anything to anyone.
nothing to me and nothing to the robbers.
go figure..
 
Danny, thank you for your patience and participation.
I see the pamplet growing already :p
 
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