Darn those French knifemakes

With due respect........! What the hack you talking about ? :D

The question was raised . How many knives does a man need ? In truth we need but one . If a man survives souly to fulfill his needs he is not much more than an animal . It is our wants which can demonstrate our humanity .

B:T:W: Andy ? I only need one arrow in an arrow shooting contest .;) :)
 
The question was raised . How many knives does a man need ? In truth we need but one . If a man survives souly to fulfill his needs he is not much more than an animal . It is our wants which can demonstrate our humanity .

B:T:W: Andy ? I only need one arrow in an arrow shooting contest .;) :)

Not if you have to split you're own arrow though, huh? Then you'd need 2.
 
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The Nontron has arrived and I used it last night to prepare my dinner so I could get a bit of a feel for it. These knives are "nicer" than the Opinels, in that they are more artistically rendered with obviously a lot of hand work involved. However, IMHO as knives go, they are not better than the Opinels regarding form, function, and utility.

So, as I put my recent Frenchie knife craze to rest, here in my opinion (so stow the slings and arrows), is a rack 'em and stack 'em.

Coming in at #1: Opinel, hands down best "bang for the buck". Good quality steel, carbon or stainless, good blade grind (thin and gently convexed), easy to sharpen, hold a good edge, and cut like nobody's business. Some won't like the simplicity of a wood handled knife with no backspring, but through experience I've learned they're plenty tough, besides being light and comfortable to carry and use.

Coming in at #2: Douk Douk. Great little slip joint folder, with a stout backspring, and a nicely ground blade (semi-hollow flat grind, spine is noticeably thicker than the Opinels) of excellent quality high carbon steel.
Again, some may find the Spartan simplicity of their folded steel handles to be a turn-off, and some grip comfort is obviously compromised. On the plus side, it makes them very light and compact for being such a sturdy knife.

Coming in at #3: Laguiole folders, as long as they are one of the better examples from a reputable maker. Considerably more expensive than the two knives above, but worth every penny if you want an elegant, traditional, slip joint folder of exceptional quality. These really are very nicely made knives, the craftsmanship and choice of materials is top notch. Mine have whittled, gutted fish, prepared meals, and just about everything else you could ask from a pocketknife. So don't let their genteel appearance fool you, they ain't scared to get their hands dirty.

Coming in last, but no insult meant by it: Nontron. Steeped in history and tradition, and displaying hand craftsmanship that's rare in this day and age, these are definitely high up on the "cool scale" if nothing else. Their unique qualities would definitely appeal to serious knife collectors, but to knuckle draggers like me who use heck out of their knives, these don't bark any louder than a regular old dog. If an Opinel will do the same thing at less than a fifth of the cost of a Nontron, I'll take the Opinel fishing and spend the rest of the money on beer and bait.;)

Sarge
 
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I just came across a link that I think you'd find highly interesting.

http://www.lanouvelle-france.com/beltknives.html

Been looking at those for a while now. Keep telling myself I should make one, but then, making a regular full tang is actually easier for me. Oddly enough, the modern Opinel paring knives are made in a very similar manner of construction as the old boucherons. So there must be something to it I'm missing.

Sarge
 
Thanks to Sarge for turning me on to the French Opinel.Ordered a couple of the folders and two paring knives.Cooler than all get out.
Ordered them from Ragweed Forge.Talk about fast service.Almost beat me home and I live off the beaten path in MT.

I'll keep watching for neat reveiws that you all make.I may find myself buying more edgey steel.

Shearer
 
Thanks to Sarge for turning me on to the French Opinel.Ordered a couple of the folders and two paring knives.Cooler than all get out.
Ordered them from Ragweed Forge.Talk about fast service.Almost beat me home and I live off the beaten path in MT.

I'll keep watching for neat reveiws that you all make.I may find myself buying more edgey steel.

Shearer

If you're tickled, then I'm tickled. Ragnar is a quality guy, and those Opinels are pretty durn good knives. In fact, a couple weeks ago I started shaving with one instead of my normal straight razor as an "experiment". At first it was a fairly novel endeavor, but now it's become so routine I may just have to find new homes for my straight razors. An obscure, but perhaps interesting to some, side note, the spear point blade of the Opinel Garden Knife is handier for shaving with than the standard Opinel blade shape. It's edge has a gentler curve to it, without that pronounced "belly" near the tip like the standard shape. Edge retention with the Sandvik stainless hasn't been a problem either, I just strop the thing like I would any of my other razors. What a hoot, a fully functional "straight razor" for about the same cost as a six pack of Guinness. Good stuff. :D

Sarge
 
Last week I ordered the Opinel Filet knife. The larger one. Man lemme tell you how sweet it is. Stainless steel, razor sharp, and the most flexible blade I've ever encountered on a filet knife. I'm about to order the large folding saw too. Then I can make a roll that I take camping that would include the Filet Knife, the Saw, and the Garden Knife. The whole set will weigh next to nothing, and will handle an enourmous assortment of tasks. I got it a SMKW.
 
I have the Opinel, DoukDouk and the Laguioles already, I can only agree with your conclusion in your "bang for bucks" rating.
I've been eyeing the Nontron for some time now, so it's really interesting to see your opinion about it - "Last but not least".
Hmmmmm, maybe I'll have to get me one anyway. You know, first hand experience and all... :D

/ Karl
 
I have 2 Nontrons a 4'' and one 3''. Both are made from carbonsteel (1075 IRC).
Funny story behind them..a Famous Politician was murdered with a Nontron and it played a role in the French Revolution (not only for cutting cheese i guess):D.
If thats not enough reasons wich makes it to a MUST have knife.
I think the twisting-lock is executed way better then the Opinel's.
But Opinels are unbeatable at the price they sell for.

Regards
 
Sarge, can you take a good pic of the lock mechanism and the pivot area of the Nontron. Great review. I will agree with most, but after holding and using a Laguiole I'd like to point to SIGNIFICANT quality increase over the rest of the crowd. Bang for the buck you're certainlly correct, but those Laguioles you sent me may have been the best built folders I've seen. Ever (customs excluded). Especially the Forge de Laguiole, which I sent to my dad. That one had a fit and finish that I've only seen on customs.

I got a couple of the Opinel pairing knives. They were sharp and light and 3 bucks each. I got the carbon steel ones, SMKW has them in SS too, but anyway, in the kitchen they required more care than I gave them and soon looked too scary to use by the wife. If you get them dry and oil them after each use. I know this seems common sense. I dried them before putting them away each time, but the wooden handle had absorbed water, and the rust was immediate. I think if I'd mineral oiled them thoroughly on arrival maybe it wouldn't have happened. Good cutters though. I'd think the design, in 12c27, would be most excellent.
 
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