Dave's Newest Project - Rehandling the Sirupati

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After several days of thrashing the blackberries, my hands are rapidly becoming useless for rough work. Today, while digging thorns out of my flesh with an awl (some of which had been there since yesterday), I realized that it was time for a new project. Nevermind that I already have several unfinished projects pending - they can wait.

My 20" siru, lovingly crafted by !, was my favorite khukuri for quite some time. It's got a habaki bolster and one of the creepiest chos that I've yet seen but regardless, it cut well, took and held a good edge, and featured an uncommon heat treat for the time period in which I bought it - ! had hardened the thing from the tip clear back to the bend.

Needless to say, I really beat the hell out of this one.

The handle was going on it. It was missing small pieces, had cracked lengthwise, and was getting difficult to hold on to - in fact, while cutting the brush today I made the mistake of wearing gloves and actually "threw the khuk" twice - my first time completely losing control of a khukuri due to handle slippage, and hopefully my last time.

20siru.jpg


Well, I know how to rehandle, technically. (I read all about it in the FAQ so I guess I know.) And I did see Hollowdweller do it once last summer. And there were those madrona staves in my carport that wouldn't be worth a damn as spear shafts...and the existing handle was already trashed. Why not?

The plan was this: remove the existing hardware, salvaging the buttcap and most of the bolster. The bolster's top edge would be nipped off and it would go back on as a traditional bolster, losing its habaki status. (I considered doing some grinding on the ricasso to eliminate the cho creep but !'s kami mark would be lost, so the ricasso stays as it is.) The bolster would then be cold worked with a mallet until it fit properly. A suitable piece of madrona would be cut to fit, worked down, and the entire thing would be reassembled.

How the poor thing looked:

siruhandle.jpg


How the poor thing looks now:

siruparts.jpg


Removing the handle was a serious PITA. The laha is no joke. I bent the bejeezus out of the buttcap getting it off but managed to pound it more or less flat on a conveniantly close piece of firewood.

I got the bolster to fit as well as it's going to. The cho is still very creepy but it'll be a half inch less creepier than it was and the bolster will look better to boot. The handle will also grow a bit. It took quite a bit of tapping with a rubber mallet to get it right.

I found a perfect piece of madrona that somehow hadn't cracked through the summer. It will get drilled and fitted for the tang tomorrow. I might even manage to sand it to shape as well.

This is turning into a much bigger project than I'd expected that it would be but, oddly enough, I feel very confident. I've already overcome every problem that's come my way so far and I have a very coherent plan in my head for how I'm going to do the rest. I think that this will turn out okay.

This is, of course, the fault of you forumites. A lot of you are helping me with this and most of you probably don't even realize it...but thank you anyway.
 
This is good to watch and read as you progress, Dave. Someday I figure I'm going to have to put a handle on a khuk too.



munk
 
This looks like a cool project for any khukuri enthusiast - personalizing a blade with a custom-made handle.

Let us know how it turns out.
 
You can do it Dave! Lead the way for the rest of us newbies who haven't done this before. I learn more from you guys than you can possibly realize. Please let us know how it goes.

Norm
 
If it is, I never knew that there is soo much of it under there. Makes me worried my HI will rust from the indside portion of the handle. I have a M-43. Maybe I should get someone to put a micarta handle on it.

Who can do something like that?

Cliff
 
ERdept said:
If it is, I never knew that there is soo much of it under there. Makes me worried my HI will rust from the indside portion of the handle. I have a M-43. Maybe I should get someone to put a micarta handle on it.

Who can do something like that?

Cliff

That looks like the black sticky laha that helps hold the handle on (and seals it against water, etc). It's a material made from tree sap and other stuff. Kind of like a hot melt adhesive.

On your M-43 if you see any gaps develop between your handle scales and the steel tang, just wick some superglue into the gap. That will seal it off from the elements. With natural materials like horn and wood, they tend to expand and contract with humidity and temperature. Nothing to worry about really.

Steve
 
Man I don,t care what its made from . It looks like a sticky gooey mess . I guess you gotta be careful appying it . I get the feeling that laha and epoxya wouldn,t get alonga . see ya .
 
I'm curious too. What's madrona wood? It's like a swear word in Spanish, with a female ending.

Boiling anything laha-ed is supposed to loosen it, but you're past that point.

Maybe, for a buttcap, that same avatar mask, made smaller. :eek: :D


Ad Astra
 
Madrona looks kinda like a giant rhododendron. It's pretty widespread along the west coast, and there's a neighborhood named after it here in Seattle. Here's a link , one with better pictures , and some technical info on it. :)

Nice work Dave, I've been mulling over replacing a handle myself but haven't taken the plunge yet. :)

Jeremy
 
ERdept said:
If it is, I never knew that there is soo much of it under there. Makes me worried my HI will rust from the indside portion of the handle. I have a M-43. Maybe I should get someone to put a micarta handle on it.

Who can do something like that?

Cliff


That isn't rust. That is just what is left of the lala. That bit that is left is a pain to remove. Scraping it with something then sanding it is about the only way to remove that last little bit.
 
Dave Rishar said:
Removing the handle was a serious PITA. The laha is no joke. I bent the bejeezus out of the buttcap getting it off but managed to pound it more or less flat on a conveniantly close piece of firewood.

No kidding.
I've been unable so far to remove the blind tang handle on my 100-year-old Atlanta Cutlery bhojpure (it's crooked and you can feel it move a teeny bit sometimes). I just wanted to reposition and secure it, but century-old laha has confounded my efforts to date.

I've tried heating with a hair dryer and also threw it in a plastic bag in boiling water. No dice yet.
 
One of the joys of living with room mates is that they occasionally borrow stuff without asking, misplace it, and don't tell me - say, the 3/8" bit that I was going to start my holes with, forcing me to improvise. When I improvise, stuff sometimes breaks.

The first handle got wrecked due to insufficient tools. I've got the second fitted to the tang. Hopefully I'll get the bolster fitted to it and the shape roughed out later on today. Cndrm is on his way over to have some khuks etched and my errands today took longer than expected.

It will get done, if a bit behind schedule. I'll detail the horror of it all later. Improvise, adapt, and overcome, right?
 
When I lived in California I always thought it was called madrone. I like madrona better.

Ma-ma-ma-myyyy madrona. :p
 
Dave Rishar said:
One of the joys of living with room mates is that they occasionally borrow stuff without asking, misplace it, and don't tell me - say, the 3/8" bit that I was going to start my holes with, forcing me to improvise.

Dave, Wait till you have sons. :) You won't find all of your tools till after they move away. ;)

Steve
 
What a PITA this is becoming. My jigsaw's gone, the one bit I needed was missing, my coarse woodworking belts somehow got used up - my housemates and I are going to have a little chat tonight about accountability. I have never had a problem with others borrowing my stuff (or even breaking it) as long as they tell me about it so that I know that it's not available. Not having the right tools makes something like this far more difficult than it needs to be and I'm not going to buy all new stuff when someone knows where my old stuff is.

The Plan is changing on a continual basis. More setbacks, but all is not lost - yet. I'm taking a break for today. I'm far too frustrated at this point to continue.

If all else fails I can put the old handle back on. I'm now very glad that I took the time to disassemble it properly without breaking anything.
 
Watching this tells me for sure I would send it to Dan. This can make you understand the skill it takes to do what looks like should be easy. :rolleyes:
 
Hang tough Dave,
Your plan is still valid, even if the execution is a bit trying. Speaking for myself, I'd very much like to see you succeed.

Sarge
 
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