Dayumed Bilton(g)!!!! I don't know what it was/is...

Yvsa

Yvsa

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As y'all know I haven't done much except post for the last longest while since I haven't been able to do much physically, well that's a changin'!!!!
I finally decided I wanted to take my little Bilton with me on our trip to my son's place this week/ that is if we get to go after all, another story.....
Anyway I took it outta its little case and thought, "Okay Bubba lets see what you're made out of!!!!"
The dayumed little knife tried to show me up, it did!!!! It was like it was sayin' to me, "Ha!!!! You've met your match and there ain't no way in hell I'm gonna let you sharpen me!!!!":p

Hmmphf!!!! I showed that little SOB just who was boss, but it took me taking it to my Grizz and putting a whole new edge geometry on it!!!!:eek: :rolleyes:
Even with my diamond hones it wasn't gonna take an edge!!!! It's one of the hardest khuks I've ever run across period!!!! Makes me wonder if it wasn't a file or something with a bit more carbon content in it than the 5160, but it is now setting in its little case like a good boy, whimpering as it now has an edge that will shave the hare of a flea's arse, or is that a flea off a hare's arse(?) and then shave the flea to boot!!!!:rolleyes: :p
I win again!!!!:D
 
If anybody can do it you can.

I checked a couple of the retis for hardness and my file wouldn't touch them. Not sure if all were as hard but the couple I checked had to be 60 Rc+.
 
Originally posted by btice
Yvsa, and here I thought you were not one to split hairs. ;)

Ben
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I'm not, it's h-a-r-e-s and I split 'em, cook 'em and eat 'em!!!!;) :p :D
 
Mmmmm. Dipped, rolled in flour, dipped, rolled in meal, dipped and rolled in dryed potato buds. Fry it. Yeah, buddy.

Ben
 
Originally posted by btice
Mmmmm. Dipped, rolled in flour, dipped, rolled in meal, dipped and rolled in dryed potato buds. Fry it. Yeah, buddy.

Ben
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You Betcha!!!!:D

Speaking of h-a-r-e-s, still don't know the diff between a rabbit and a hare, but do know that jackrabbits are hares and not rabbits.
I haven't hunted in several years and something not well known to even many okies is that we have a form of h-a-r-e here that's known locally as "Swamp Rabbits." These things have the outward appearance of a cottontail until you shoot one and go to pick it up.
Where cottontails run maybe 3 pounds for a really large one the swamp rabbits commonly go at twice that!!!!
When you get a couple of these for the pot you've got some real eaten'!!!!!
I can't tell any difference in the flavor, but some old timers swear the swampers taste sweeter. I think it's because even a front leg off of a swamper gives you some real meat instead of half bone.:D

Mmmmm Swamp Rabbit!!!! Fried, Baked, Roasted or Stewed!!!!:cool: :D
Dayum, but I'm hungry!!!!:rolleyes: :( :grumpy: ;)
 
In simple terms, rabbits are born furless and with both eyes and ears closed. They require a period of nuturing before the can fend for themselves. Hares, on the other hand, are born fully haired, with their eyes and ears open, and can run shortly after birth.

Another important difference between a rabbit and a hare is in their genetic structures. A domestic rabbit has 22 chromosome pairs while a hare has 24. A rabbit and a hare can mate but no young will be produced.
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The main difference between rabbits and hares is in that of their offspring. Rabbit babies are born naked and blind while hares are born with fur and with vision. A few less distinct differences exist though.

One difference is that hares are generally larger than rabbits. They also have longer ears and hind legs. This gives hares the added advantage of a longer leap. In addition, while many hares have coats which turn white during the winter rabbits keep their coloration no matter what the season. Hares also have characteristic black markings or tips on each ear that the rabbit does not.

Another difference includes their nesting habits. Rabbits tend to be social creatures living in large colonies in underground burrows. Adult hares do not usually live together and the female creates a simple indentation or flattened area called a form to deliver her young.
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While they look the same (floppy ears, long incisors, beady eyes), hares are bigger than rabbits. They are also born with a full coat of hair, while rabbits are born hairless and blind. A young hare is called a leveret, while a young rabbit is called (no joke) a bunny! Rabbits live underground in burrows, while hares like to hide amidst plants. Rabbits prefer to live in groups, while hares are more solitary.
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Hares Are Not Rabbits And Rabbits Are Not Hares.
This is the time of year that rabbit hunters can be found following their hounds in the woods and swamps of Vermont and New Hampshire. This devoted group of hunters trudges through deep snow on snowshoes in hopes of getting a shot at a snowshoe hare racing by.

We all talk about rabbit hunting, but in most cases it is not rabbit we are after, but hare.

Vermont and New Hampshire have both the Cottontail Rabbit and the Snowshoe Hare, also known as the Varying Hare.

Hares are born with ample fur and open eyes. They can run soon after they are born.

Rabbits are born naked with closed eyes and are helpless. Rabbits are born in a nest, usually well concealed in a hollow depression. Hares are not born in a nest, but in a sheltered spot.

Hares prefer rock crevices for shelter, while rabbits use burrows or hide under tree roots or logs or in dense thickets.

Rabbits are short legged and cannot run as fast or as long as hares. Hares are larger than rabbits and have noticeably larger ears and legs.

Both are of the family Leporidae. The Romans called all rabbits and hares Lepus and this continued until the late 19th century when scientists divided the animals into two groups: Lepus (hares) and Sylvilagus (rabbits).

Hares and rabbits have the unusual characteristic among mammals whereby the females are generally larger than the males.

All leporids have long ears that are extremely sensitive to sounds. They also have large eyes on the sides of the head giving them the ability to detect danger easily. Their hind legs are very powerful and much longer than their forelegs. The feet have four or five toes and furry soles.

Rabbits and hares are strict vegetarians. They feed on light brush and grasses.

The cottontail lives most often near farmland where there is a good mixture of grass and brushy areas. Cottontails do not change color like the snowshoe, so its need for cover is acute during periods of snow cover. This is why it prefers bushy areas with hedgerows and other hiding places.

The snowshoe or Varying Hare prefers softwood or mixed hardwood forest. Its fur changes color with the seasons. Brown fur offers protection during much of the year with white fur being the order for winter months. The snowshoe has large fur-covered feet which allow it to move in snow very well and thus its name.

It is interesting to note that Zaddock Thompson, writing in the Natural History of Vermont in 1853, devoted space to both species. He refers to the cottontail as the American Rabbit and says that the snowshoe was often known as the white rabbit.

Helenette Silver wrote in her New Hampshire Game and Furbearers that documents from the early 1600s refer to both the hare and the rabbit as being residents of what is now New Hampshire and describe the difference between the two. She also says the rabbit, "is sometimes called the coney, and occasionally the gray rabbit."

My upbringing was to call the rabbit a coney and the hare a snowshoe rabbit. Biologically, we were incorrect, but at least we knew the difference and where to find them when hunting season opened.
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How's that?
 
Also very good pressure-cooked. Not necessarily your muskrats, Yvsa. Never tried one. Oh, sorry, Swamp Rats.

Quarter the rabbit, brown it in a little bacon fat, put in pressure cooker with red wine, bay leaf, little bit of orange marmalade, some ketchup or chili sauce, chicken stock, a few peppercorns, garlic. Cook for 20 minutes. Falls off the bone. Yumm.
 
Or, everything you ever wanted to know (and maybe more) about hares and rabbits. I'll stick with my charbroiled squirrel heads.
 
Originally posted by Bill Martino
I'll stick with my charbroiled squirrel heads.
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Oh, if you've never tried squirrel head stew...mmmm.

Ben

Yvsa, see what you started?
 
Wow!!!! Dayum!!!! Looks like I got people interested in hares and rabbits and Swamp Rabbits!!!!:D
The Swampers have quite a rep around here among the old timers like me.
They're known for their quickness and almost supernatural ability to dodge the most well placed shot!!!!
It almost seems like you have to aim for where they're going to be instead of leading them a little like a cottontail.:eek:
And it takes a 12 gauge, none of them puny little 20's to knock down the Swampers.:p ;)

Now back to the subject of the Bilton.... Anyone else sharpened theirs up and if so was it anymore difficult than any other khuk?:)
 
Hmmphf!!!! I showed that little SOB just who was boss, but it took me taking it to my Grizz and putting a whole new edge geometry on it!!!!
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Gotta love the Grizzly.
Regards,
Greg
 
Yvsa, I was able to put a good edge on mine. Not razor sharp, but then it's probably best that I don't. I did have to take the diamond stone out first and then two angles on the ceramic rods. Tell you what...let me at them rabbits, uh, hares, uh, swampers...oh, just give me a squirrel.

Ben
 
Originally posted by btice
Yvsa, Tell you what...let me at them rabbits, uh, hares, uh, swampers...oh, just give me a squirrel.

Ben
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Be Very, Very Careful for what you ASK For!!!!!!!
Pardon me ladies.:o

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That squirrel looks proud...or is it my imagination?

Ysva, am I the only one, or are you reeling with potential jokes on this one?

Ben
 
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