Yeah, its alot of fun! I can see all of your points. I like the Syperco Native because of the rivot but some others dont. I agree that even the pinned ones will get loose over time. Ive never had a Benchmade knife before so I dont know about those. I here good things about them. I think Im gonna carry one of my SAKs and maybe my Izula and I should be ok. Heck my Grandfather carried a Barlow knife all of his life and I have it now and its still solid. No blade play at all. Now if Victorinox would put pocket clips on there OHT, then I would be happy. I love my SAKs.