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Deployment... was "Peanut"
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Right on, stay safe. Please also consider a multitool or a vic farmer.
God Bless.
God Bless.
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First of all, hat's off to you for your service! :thumbup:
Secondly, please tell us a bit about your deployment. Where are you headed and what do you do? Personally, I think that array will cover you just fine. From everything I read, even in areas of military conflict, knives are used for utilitarian purposes 99.9999999% of the time - and we all know the peanut shines in that role!
Lastly, stay safe!
Hmmm, interesting.
Out of curiousity, what was going to be your second knife?
Like mnblade said, alot depends on where you're going. Our nieces fiance/now husband, did a tour in the sandbox and I questioned him on his return. One of his most used pieces of gear was his basic model (dare I say it here?) Leatherman. Also used alot was a small personal flashlight, leather gloves, good pen for writing, and good sunglasses.
He never needed much blade, the main blade of his Leatherman was good enough, but the screwdrivers were used alot. In my own experiance, a Buck stockman, and later a sak served me through 10 years of army service including a tour in 1967 to 68 in Viet Nam.
From what I hear, some unit comanders actually do not permit thier soldiers to carry a fixed blade.
It sounds like you're traveling a little light, but in the real world you're probably gonna do just fine. A small pocket knife will cut just about everything you need to cut. MRE packages, letters or care packages from home, string/twine/rope.
Come to think of it, I knew one guy who made it through WW2 with a Case peanut, and an Opinel he picked up along the way.
I second Jackknife's suggestion of a Leatherman.
A peanut is an excellent pocket knife.
But if you need to fix things a leatherman is the job, and sits on your belt in a pouch.
I carried small slipjoint pliers in the Service, and had Leathermans been around I would have carried one.
Good Luck in your deployment.
A peanut is an excellent pocket knife.
But if you need to fix things a leatherman is the job, and sits on your belt in a pouch.
I carried small slipjoint pliers in the Service, and had Leathermans been around I would have carried one.
Good Luck in your deployment.
Ya know, I've been sitting here the last hour sort of musing over this thread, having a second cup of tea while giving the subject some thought.
I've been going thru the archives of my own memories, (yes, I've had to blow a few cobwebs off) plus those memories of talking to old family members long gone now, who have gone through "deployment" to some not so nice places. My Uncle Charlie, a foot slogging GI in WW2, Uncle Mike, a WW2 sailor in small plywood boats, Dad, and others. My own generation was the Viet Nam conflict.
I don't ever recall from my own experiances, or those of family members I knew were telling the truth, anyone who needed a large sheath knife. The army issued a bayonet with the M1, so Uncle Charlie just used that for things his pocket knife wouldn't handle. But mostly, he like Uncle Mike used his issue pocket knife. It was one of those all metal scout type knives they have been making since early WW2 era. When I was a kid, I remember him having it always in his pocket, and using it now and then while working on some house or garden project. I had one myself from my own service days made by Camillus. Our supply room had a big box of them, so we all had one or two. (Not counting the ones we sent home to relitives.) There were TL-29's with that little leather sheath that held a pair of linemens pliers. Once in a while we had some Camillus stockman knives come through with brown plasitic handles and "Property of U.S. Government" stenciled on the blade. Uncle Mike had been issued the same knife more than 20 years earlier, and carried it the rest of his life. Must have been a boat load in some warehouse.
I knew some guys who loved the TL-29. A good rugged pocket knife with a screwdriver blade that could do light prying.
I suppose the all metal scout knife has been replaced by the multitool. The multitool seems to be the modern generations solution to the old scout knife or sak. I've never owned one so I can't say, but they seem to be a usefull item. Utilitarian. Yeah, practical, if lacking something in the eye appeal. I've heard some units are actually issuing them. I guess thats good, give the young men something they can use.
I remember all to well, using the can opener on my knife to open those C rations. Meat patties, individual, come to mind. About the look, smell, and consistancy of Kennel Ration dog food, you had to be hungrey to eat it. Surprisingly the ham and eggs weren't bad, and the fruit was good. Hard to screw up canned pinapple or peaches I guess. But those GI scout knives were handy if you didn't have a P-38 handy for some reason, and you felt like eating for some odd reason. Now with the MRE's, I suppose the modern GI does not need a can opener. Progress.
I love the peanut as much as the next man. Okay, maybe a bit more. But if I were "deploying" today, I think I'd probably take my Wenger SI along. Nothing I can put a finger on, soldiers have been using small slip joints for generations. In most of the military museums I've been to, theres objects of soldiers personal gear. A razor, toothbrush, sewing kit. Small pocket knife. From Antietam to the museum at the Little Big Horn, it seems like soldiers have carried a small slip joint pocket knife. The exeption was the Confederate troops who were chronicly short of ammo and supplies, carried large bowie's. In modern warefare, I don't think you'll be living off the land. Most old WW2 vets I've known and spoke with on the subject, carried the issue scout knife, TL-29, or a mundane pocket knife from back home. Maybe the special unit guys may have been a bit different. Most of the guys I knew had the attitude that if they needed a weapon, then thats what the issue bayonet was for. Uncle Charlie used a small file to sharpen up his M1 bayonet real good he said.
jpvr- I think you'll be fine, just be carefull out there. No heroics, please. Leave that to Hollywood, and keep us up to date on how you're doing. Full report with details if we may beg of you sir.
Good luck.:thumbup:
I've been going thru the archives of my own memories, (yes, I've had to blow a few cobwebs off) plus those memories of talking to old family members long gone now, who have gone through "deployment" to some not so nice places. My Uncle Charlie, a foot slogging GI in WW2, Uncle Mike, a WW2 sailor in small plywood boats, Dad, and others. My own generation was the Viet Nam conflict.
I don't ever recall from my own experiances, or those of family members I knew were telling the truth, anyone who needed a large sheath knife. The army issued a bayonet with the M1, so Uncle Charlie just used that for things his pocket knife wouldn't handle. But mostly, he like Uncle Mike used his issue pocket knife. It was one of those all metal scout type knives they have been making since early WW2 era. When I was a kid, I remember him having it always in his pocket, and using it now and then while working on some house or garden project. I had one myself from my own service days made by Camillus. Our supply room had a big box of them, so we all had one or two. (Not counting the ones we sent home to relitives.) There were TL-29's with that little leather sheath that held a pair of linemens pliers. Once in a while we had some Camillus stockman knives come through with brown plasitic handles and "Property of U.S. Government" stenciled on the blade. Uncle Mike had been issued the same knife more than 20 years earlier, and carried it the rest of his life. Must have been a boat load in some warehouse.
I knew some guys who loved the TL-29. A good rugged pocket knife with a screwdriver blade that could do light prying.
I suppose the all metal scout knife has been replaced by the multitool. The multitool seems to be the modern generations solution to the old scout knife or sak. I've never owned one so I can't say, but they seem to be a usefull item. Utilitarian. Yeah, practical, if lacking something in the eye appeal. I've heard some units are actually issuing them. I guess thats good, give the young men something they can use.
I remember all to well, using the can opener on my knife to open those C rations. Meat patties, individual, come to mind. About the look, smell, and consistancy of Kennel Ration dog food, you had to be hungrey to eat it. Surprisingly the ham and eggs weren't bad, and the fruit was good. Hard to screw up canned pinapple or peaches I guess. But those GI scout knives were handy if you didn't have a P-38 handy for some reason, and you felt like eating for some odd reason. Now with the MRE's, I suppose the modern GI does not need a can opener. Progress.
I love the peanut as much as the next man. Okay, maybe a bit more. But if I were "deploying" today, I think I'd probably take my Wenger SI along. Nothing I can put a finger on, soldiers have been using small slip joints for generations. In most of the military museums I've been to, theres objects of soldiers personal gear. A razor, toothbrush, sewing kit. Small pocket knife. From Antietam to the museum at the Little Big Horn, it seems like soldiers have carried a small slip joint pocket knife. The exeption was the Confederate troops who were chronicly short of ammo and supplies, carried large bowie's. In modern warefare, I don't think you'll be living off the land. Most old WW2 vets I've known and spoke with on the subject, carried the issue scout knife, TL-29, or a mundane pocket knife from back home. Maybe the special unit guys may have been a bit different. Most of the guys I knew had the attitude that if they needed a weapon, then thats what the issue bayonet was for. Uncle Charlie used a small file to sharpen up his M1 bayonet real good he said.
jpvr- I think you'll be fine, just be carefull out there. No heroics, please. Leave that to Hollywood, and keep us up to date on how you're doing. Full report with details if we may beg of you sir.
Good luck.:thumbup:
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My neighbors son just left for his second tour. When he got back from his first, I gave him a MT one hander and he told me he really enjoyed carrying it in Italy after his first tour in Iraq.
I asked him if he wanting something else to carry. First words out of his mouth was multitool. By coincidence I had two one that I use and one that had been given to me as a gift that remained in the blister pack. He used knifehead's swayback to open the blisterpack.
I asked him if he wanting something else to carry. First words out of his mouth was multitool. By coincidence I had two one that I use and one that had been given to me as a gift that remained in the blister pack. He used knifehead's swayback to open the blisterpack.
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You know, I read the "recommend a good knife for a soldier" threads here on BF religiously and - over and over and over - I see guys who have been there post that a good multi-tool is the thing to take, period.
I'm an S-1 fobbit, so I don't need anything huge really. Our plans keep changing where in Iraq we're going. Originally I was going to take a Buck 303, & Vic Soldier. My biggest "fear" is that as small as it is, EVERYONE will die laughing. My 1SG thinks I'm nuts, & my CSM thinks I'm F****** Nuts.
Got tot go & get my 7 shots.
Got tot go & get my 7 shots.
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A SAK Farmer is not a poor choice in a tight spot either.
I'm an S-1 fobbit, so I don't need anything huge really. Our plans keep changing where in Iraq we're going. Originally I was going to take a Buck 303, & Vic Soldier. My biggest "fear" is that as small as it is, EVERYONE will die laughing. My 1SG thinks I'm nuts, & my CSM thinks I'm F****** Nuts.
Got tot go & get my 7 shots.
Only 7, why not a nice bakers dozen.
I'm an S-1 fobbit, so I don't need anything huge really. Our plans keep changing where in Iraq we're going. Originally I was going to take a Buck 303, & Vic Soldier. My biggest "fear" is that as small as it is, EVERYONE will die laughing. My 1SG thinks I'm nuts, & my CSM thinks I'm F****** Nuts.
Got tot go & get my 7 shots.
Ask your 1SG, very politly, what his last several cutting jobs were.
I'm an S-1 fobbit, so I don't need anything huge really. Our plans keep changing where in Iraq we're going. Originally I was going to take a Buck 303, & Vic Soldier. My biggest "fear" is that as small as it is, EVERYONE will die laughing. My 1SG thinks I'm nuts, & my CSM thinks I'm F****** Nuts.
Got tot go & get my 7 shots.
I agree why not get a bakers dozen shots? What pray tell is an S-1 fobbit? I know a CSM who recently retired, he read this thread & "concurs" with your CSM. I don't know if that's good or bad.
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I have found with the Peanut and other small knives that if you keep it killer sharp, it seems to make the knife cut "bigger". That is to say, a super sharp small knife requires less force, less time and so forth. This morning, on the edge of the Powernoodle Garden I cut through a small sapling the diameter of my thumb with a few strokes of my yellow SS Peanut (as if I was making a fuzz stick, but deeper cuts) and it was a breeze. A larger but less sharp knife would not have made the task easier.
Only 7, why not a nice bakers dozen.
yer so funny i fergot to laf.
I agree why not get a bakers dozen shots? What pray tell is an S-1 fobbit? I know a CSM who recently retired, he read this thread & "concurs" with your CSM. I don't know if that's good or bad.
Funny. An S-1 fobbit sits in the AC, (or heat in Afghanistan) & watches football on satelitte tv PENN STATE. When someone wants something we just tell'em we have no uplink, then we go back to watch the game.
SHHHHHH! don't tell anyone though it's a secret.
Oh yeah since he's retired, tell that CSM, uh, nevermind.