Destruction test

rodriguez7

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I know this is a very controversial subject, but I would really like to see what this steel in this heat treat is capable of handling. We saw the bend test with the light chopper, but how about the field knife, has one been done? Has any blade been beaten hard enough to break? Just curious, I know many say it's pointless, but it gives an idea of what these can take, if ever needed in an emergency.
 
Nate has definitely done some of his own, they're in the videos in the sales threads. I'll see if I can grab a link. The bend test on that light chopper is insane :eek:

Edit: Sorry, couldn't get it to embed. Brick and hammer at about 5:30 in.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/embed/1w1_WX_fNN8[/video]
 
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I will be happy to do one and video the entire thing if I can use your knife.

Ha, I'm sure you would, but this one isn't leaving my side! I'm curious if the field knife can take the same flex as the light chopper. I saw the brick splitting, and it only chipped out a little. My sr101 has faired worse than that chopping an elk antler. And is touted as being superior to 3v by a certain group, (no name bashing of course) but I wonder what it would take to break one in nates 3v.
 
it might be cool to have a locked sticky with ongoing test vids. No dialogue, just easy to find video resource material to aid you in your buying decisions :)
 
Ha, I'm sure you would, but this one isn't leaving my side! I'm curious if the field knife can take the same flex as the light chopper. I saw the brick splitting, and it only chipped out a little. My sr101 has faired worse than that chopping an elk antler. And is touted as being superior to 3v by a certain group, (no name bashing of course) but I wonder what it would take to break one in nates 3v.

I've done just stupid abusive things to the test LC I have, and it is barely worse for the wear.

Things I think were dumb:

Hammering it through a 8"-9" round of knotty yellow cedar. I guess this is like extreme batoning. No damage.

Hammering it into the trunk of a big old Cherry tree, then jumping on the handle to try and get it to bend. No damage.

I used it to cut up a roll of carpet, not a great tool for the test, but no damage, no detectable loss of sharpness. Significantly out performed my Sebenza 25.

I've done lots of less silly things like chopping up some 2x4s, branches, a few hits into the dirt while taking the watershoot trunks on a cherry tree, only about 20 year old ones. No problem, no chipping etc.

I was going to use it to cut another knife in half, but thought that might be a little politically incorrect.

I have not done anything like this with a FK, but I would be comfortable at this point saying it is basically indestructible without doing something completely none use related and using some form of significant mechanical advantage.

Even where I hammered on the spine there is almost zero damage. What there is, tiny little cosmetic blemishes that could be easily finished out. D3V shouldn't even be comparable class anymore, it's insane.
 
yeah I'll send you one, no problem. :thumbup:

Sweet, Nathan. I will be looking forward to it. As I indicated to you, if there is anything in particular you would like me to do or anything that you would like me to steer clear of because it's so absurd, just let me know.
 
it would be cool to see how it holds up to impact when it's really cold
 
Ha, I'm sure you would, but this one isn't leaving my side! I'm curious if the field knife can take the same flex as the light chopper. I saw the brick splitting, and it only chipped out a little. My sr101 has faired worse than that chopping an elk antler.

Why would you chop an elk antler?
 
Sweet, Nathan. I will be looking forward to it. As I indicated to you, if there is anything in particular you would like me to do or anything that you would like me to steer clear of because it's so absurd, just let me know.

Cool man, lets do this thing. :thumbup:

Has any blade been beaten hard enough to break? Just curious, I know many say it's pointless, but it gives an idea of what these can take, if ever needed in an emergency.


The op wants to know what it takes to break one. So this is what I'd like to see:

What does it take to snap the tip?
What does it take to blow out into the primary grinds?
What does it take to actually break.

Lets start with normal rough knife usage, meaning extreme batoning, scraping, stabbing, rough chopping (all done very hard) and other very rough use that a knife user might do to a knife if they had to.

You'll dull it, but it won't break.

Then progress into use a knife user wouldn't normally do like baton through things with a heavy hammer, throw it hard tip first into concrete, drive over it with a car etc.

But to see what it's going to take to break it, I think you might need a cheater bar. I do.


The knife I'm sending is a blem. If you can break it just discard the pieces. If you don't break it I want it returned so a blem doesn't end up "out there".

The particular specimen I'm sending you is sharpened 20 DPS, measures .026" behind the edge, and measured HRC 61.5

It is not the geometry or the lower hardness of a "rough use indestructible knife" but I don't think you'll be able to break it without tools. We'll send it out to you today, I can't wait to see what you come up with. :thumbup:
 
This is cool! Look forward to seeing the video! I saw a destruction video from another company where they had the knife balanced between two points, a chain wrapped around the knife and supporting a work out bar, and kept adding weight to the bar until the knife snapped. Not sure the FK is long enough for that, but it's an interesting idea i think
 
Why would you chop an elk antler?

Just for the hell of it I guess. It wasn't really that hard of a chop, but it was with my camp tramp, which should have held up fine. Just checking to see how durable the edge was. I did it with a few different knives to see, and sr101 chipped out pretty bad.
 
Cool man, lets do this thing. :thumbup:




The op wants to know what it takes to break one. So this is what I'd like to see:

What does it take to snap the tip?
What does it take to blow out into the primary grinds?
What does it take to actually break.

Lets start with normal rough knife usage, meaning extreme batoning, scraping, stabbing, rough chopping (all done very hard) and other very rough use that a knife user might do to a knife if they had to.

You'll dull it, but it won't break.

Then progress into use a knife user wouldn't normally do like baton through things with a heavy hammer, throw it hard tip first into concrete, drive over it with a car etc.

But to see what it's going to take to break it, I think you might need a cheater bar. I do.


The knife I'm sending is a blem. If you can break it just discard the pieces. If you don't break it I want it returned so a blem doesn't end up "out there".

The particular specimen I'm sending you is sharpened 20 DPS, measures .026" behind the edge, and measured HRC 61.5

It is not the geometry or the lower hardness of a "rough use indestructible knife" but I don't think you'll be able to break it without tools. We'll send it out to you today, I can't wait to see what you come up with. :thumbup:

Nice, I'm really interested in this, I think your onto something with your heat treat. It should fair well!
 
Just for the hell of it I guess. It wasn't really that hard of a chop, but it was with my camp tramp, which should have held up fine. Just checking to see how durable the edge was. I did it with a few different knives to see, and sr101 chipped out pretty bad.

Interesting. The Camp Tramps are Differential HT, could be a weak spot. Any cracks going past the edge into the blade, or did the steel just tear out along the edge?
 
It just chipped on the edge, I'm guessing it was probably over hardened, I have a swamp rat m6 and did the same, and it just dented.
 
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