Destructive Knife Steel Testing . . .

So I have a TON more trees that need to come down on the property-
Ill find a few that have at least 6' length of VERY close diameter and little to no knots to do some comparisons/ abuse with shortly.

I'm pretty excited but I hope I can get the ball rolling before the Ky heat hits.
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Has it been two weeks yet?? ;)

WebLooking forward to seeing what you guys have cooked up…
Same! Eagerly awaiting more testing from the mothership.

Performance showcases are probably everybody's favorite content that Busse puts out so I hope we get to see a lot more in the near future.
 
The skrama did not perform better than Busse in his test even without taking into account his bias for the skrama. We counted the hits and the skrama failed earlier, by quite a bit. But the skrama is also a lot cheaper at $115(with a handle).

As for sending joe any more knives. Why? there is literally nothing to be gained by sending knives to someone who is trying to proves non euro expensive knives are crap. He is 100% inconsistent in his testing and he is totally biased. Seems to me that his tests are more entertainment than anything else. The fact that he screams about lillys knife which got the feather duster treatment, by comparison, says it all.
After watching all of his videos (or nearly all), he looks to me like an under-cover Cold Steel agent rather than trying to prove non-euro expensive knives are crap. If you watch carefully:

1) He appeared onto the internet a few months after Lynn Thompson sold Cold Steel (may it be just a coincidence, but still...).

2) He tested Cold Steel knives more than anything else.

3) He appreciates even crap knives that are made by this brand (e.g. in my experience 1055 throwers bent and broke on the tips much easier than a lot of other steels; in Joe's tests these knives are champions).

4) He promotes steels that are largely used by Cold Steel (including the likes of AUS-10 which is not even close as tough as AUS-8).

5) The only bad thing he said about a CS knife was about the Bushman (which is a knife already proven and very popular, so not likely to affect its sales anyway).

6) Joe's tests never include batoning, nor hammering the knife with a steel hammer to speed up the work. He occasionally does some batoning before the actual destruction test, but only with some of the knives and doesn't insist on this area. Batoning and hammering a knife is something that Cold Steel officially qualifies as "abuse". May it be a coincidence that Joe avoids this from his tests, even this is a very popular way to use a knife in many countries and cultures...? 🤔

7) He helped promoting Lilly's knives, but which is a conational having a small shop with only 3 knife models (not really a competitor for Cold Steel) and who (coincidence again) uses AUS-8 (just again promoting a steel found in many CS knives).

I might be mistaken, but his bias for Cold Steel appears to me more obvious with every new video.
 
I don’t care who you are. The value for what you get for what you pay for Cold Steel. Can’t be beat. Folders anyway….

Their folders are untouchable. You can get a 4 Max Scout on sale for $37. Nothing. And I mean NOTHING can come anywhere close to what you get.
Very true. Only downside is the non existent customer service. But for $37 I guess you can’t worry about it much. Depends what knives you get from Cold Steel. I wouldn’t spend north of $150 unless it’s an older discontinued model.
 
I don’t care who you are. The value for what you get for what you pay for Cold Steel. Can’t be beat. Folders anyway….
I fully agree with that and the price-to-performance of CS.

What I do not agree with is presenting some of the steels as top contenders in regards to destruction testing, based on inconsistently performed comparative testing (e.g. different type of pressure exerted with different knives, different type of steel foil pentrated, different type of bricks and different type of wood, different order of the testing sequence, different environmental temperature, different edge profiles and different grinds, different duration of the exposure to impacts, as well as avoiding to hit all the knives in the spine with a steel hammer of the same size etc.). I still advocate my opinion that 1055 and AUS-10 are not even in top 20 knife steels in regards to impact resistance, strength and durability. And this can be easily proved if someone performs some consistent testing.

Cheers!
 
Along those lines, Mike Turber recently snapped 1" off a Busse Basic by flexing it past 50 degrees. Out of curiosity I took a 12" Ontario machete and jammed the tip in a stump about 1" and flexed it to determine the fracture point. I bend it so the handle was past 90 degrees to the tip (which was distorting the wood so the actual bend angle is a little lower). Does this indicate the 1995 machete is "tougher" than the Basic? No, it can handle a much larger flex because it it thinner and a little longer. However what is important is that I bent the machete with one hand with little/no effort. It took Mike all he had to bend the Basic. The strengths are very different.
This was back in 1999.
And in 2024, some people still don’t understand basic physics.
 
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