DHIII Scary Tac Set vs Ivory Ban eff July 6, 2016

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This thread could turn out to be a short one or a long one, but it doesn't matter because for me, it will be a fun one no matter what.
The ivory bans, in all their forms, represent points in time by which those affected better have decided what happens to the ivory pieces (if any) in their collections.

It becomes even more important for California, New York and New Jersey collectors if any mammoth is owned. Here in California, the ban against ivory takes all forms. You name it, if it's ivory, it's sale is banned. Even the possession with intent to sell is banned - all effective today. I believe the federal ban on African elephant ivory is effective July 6.

Well, I began contemplating what to do with some of my mammoth a month ago. This contemplation led me to buy more, not because I thought it would increase in value, but because I liked what I was buying. At the same time, I was wondering if I was crazy, and started to think about selling instead. My biggest problem was a DHIII set that I thought I would never, never split up. One piece was mammoth. Bottom line, it took me until 6pm last night to decide - not to sell any of my mammoth.

But just for fun, I'm wondering what you folks would do, in those states that have no "mammoth problem", if you suddenly were faced with splitting apart a set that, at least IMHO, is beyond compare. If your state made the sale of mammoth illegal, what would you do with the piece below that is obviously mammoth?

Or to simplify the question, if your state enacted such legislation, would you sell your mammoth ahead of it's effective date or keep it?

Don Hanson III Scary Tac Set - Imaging by Caleb Royer

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The blade material is from the same billet and the bolsters are that well matched because they, too, came from the same billet (not the same billet as the blade material, obviously). The folders were ordered as a set, the handle materials and blade shapes being different.

The question is the last sentence - if your state enacted a ban on mammoth ivory sales, would you split the set or not?


Or to simplify the question, if your state enacted such legislation, would you sell your mammoth ahead of it's effective date or keep it?
 
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Beautiful set! I couldn't break them up.
The handle material on the other knife could be a touchy subject as well when sold.

Tad
 
Tad Lynch said:
The handle material on the other knife could be a touchy subject as well when sold.

Tad
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No kiddin'! But I'll never sell them. I agonized over all my mammoth throughout the month of June (while buying a couple more, duh), so I am absolute now in keeping the set together. The idea from the start was to make the set so compelling that I would go crazy if I ever thought of separating them, and I almost did go crazy this last month doing just that.
 
When it comes to questions like these, my sympathies are with the outlaws ;)

What an exceptional set!
 
Bob, thanks for using these for your example. I will never stop using fossil ivory.
Even if I can't get anymore, I think I have enough to last my career. :)
 
That mysterious handle material is amazing!!! :eek:

I'm not a fan of the so called 'Compound Grind' but that is a fine folder none the less.... ;)
 
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Bob, thanks for using these for your example. I will never stop using fossil ivory.
Even if I can't get anymore, I think I have enough to last my career. :)
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I don't think anyone, not ANYONE, would ever assume the KING of fossil ivory would EVER abdicate his throne!
 
You and I call this same infuriating state home, so I share your frustration. I don't have the same dilemma as you though as I only own a single mammoth ivory knife. I never considered selling it because it's my dress knife, and hence a user. But then again I think my nature is getting more ornery and contrary as I get older. I bemoan the always increasing number of laws that are malum prohibitum in nature. I consider myself a law abiding man, but it seems that there is no longer a place for me in this world as the mind numbing numbers of rules and regulations turn otherwise honest people into scofflaws and criminals.

I'm keeping this knife and I'll do as I please with it.

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I have a couple pieces of scale material and one knife in mammoth tooth (which I believe is included in this debacle). Definitely going to keep them. An when I do have the opportunity to acquire a DHIII piece, I will keep that also.:D Mike
 
These ivory laws that are being placed into effect in other states have caused me to increase my ivory knife purchases, specifically mammoth. Not really afraid that my home state (Texas) will start any of this nonsense any time soon, however, I'd regret it if such laws are passed in the future and I didn't have a nice stock pile of ivory knives in my collection. I'd certainly hang on to all my ivory knives if I were you. I think years from now you'll probably love these knives even more as they are part of your permanent collection.
 
Actually, I have three permanent collections, this folder set being in one of them. One of the other permanent collections has several pieces with carved ivory handles I could never, ever part with. I hear ya.
 
Heck, Bob, I can't even own the second knife whereas the first is not an issue currently and I hope it never gets to the "crazy" stage. Thanks goodness only 3 states so far have an issue with "ivory". I would think it may crimp the style of Nordic Knives and reduce the places that sellers may go to for doing consignment sales in the future. I have a much larger collection of "knives I won't part with" so it will be my kids that have the issue in the future. Maybe they will simply keep them.
 
betzner said:
No kiddin'! But I'll never sell them. I agonized over all my mammoth throughout the month of June (while buying a couple more, duh), so I am absolute now in keeping the set together. The idea from the start was to make the set so compelling that I would go crazy if I ever thought of separating them, and I almost did go crazy this last month doing just that.
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Exceptional set, a lot of sweat, and the right decision. I'm with you Bob. :thumbup:

- Joe
 
Murray White said:
Heck, Bob, I can't even own the second knife whereas the first is not an issue currently and I hope it never gets to the "crazy" stage. Thanks goodness only 3 states so far have an issue with "ivory". I would think it may crimp the style of Nordic Knives and reduce the places that sellers may go to for doing consignment sales in the future. I have a much larger collection of "knives I won't part with" so it will be my kids that have the issue in the future. Maybe they will simply keep them.
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Murray, I am told that dealers who list any "white" ivory will probably be in for a shock real soon from the feds. You've got to wonder who is going to bear the responsibility for consigned goods confiscated from a dealer's stock, the actual owner or the dealer, once it turns out to be African elephant ivory. Think of all the dealer websites that are about to be, or already have been, scrutinized closely for white ivory with an eye toward future contact and enforcement.
 
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WOW. While I can't claim to have a preference for the aesthetics of blade profiles or the theme, I am thoroughly impressed with the creativity, craftsmanship, and execution of these knives. Hats off to you sir. Those are truly some incredible blades!
 
gdpolk said:
WOW. While I can't claim to have a preference for the aesthetics of blade profiles or the theme, I am thoroughly impressed with the creativity, craftsmanship, and execution of these knives. Hats off to you sir. Those are truly some incredible blades!
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Hey, I only bought 'em, so take that hat off to Don Hanson III who made 'em. And to Caleb Royer who photographed them, no easy task.
 
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