Diamond Blade Knives... The BEST blade ever produced...

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http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/gun-nuts/2013/03/diamond-blade-meridian

Why are there no threads on these knives?????

I have been using these knives for a year or so... They are the BEST PERIOD. I also have a wicked edge sharpener so it is easy for me to get them HHS (hanging hair sharp). I have the summit and personally think it is the best knife on the market today, craftsmanship in the handle is unreal, the sheath is also the best leather sheath I have ever seen, and of course the blade is truly a work of art. The blade is 68 RC HARDNESS! Hardest blade on the market.

Just wanted to let everyone know about this company that hasn't heard of them. I was very excited the first time I found out about them so let me know what yall think.
 
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I have a few Busse knives with Infi steel and a ton of other nice knives with a lot of different super steels... I love Busse infi but it isn't even close to the edge retention of these knives.
 
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arkansas09 said:
I have a few Busse knives with infi steel and a ton of other nice knives with a lot of different super steels... I love Busse infi but it isnt even close to the edge retention of these knives.
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As everyone knows edge retention is only one important factor in measuring a blades quality.


Quote from article: This results in a blade whose edge is so hard that its Rockwell number is off the chart (65 to 68 on the C scale; 62 is regarded as absolute max on conventionally tempered blades) while the spine is Rc 42-45, about as hard as a rifle receiver.

The result is the same as Japanese swordsmiths achieved with katana blades—an extremely sharp, durable edge, and a nearly unbreakable blade. I once watched a Diamond Blade bent double in a vise, then bent straight again, and it didn’t care much if at all. :end quote

So a knife in D2 with an Rc on the edge of 65-68 withstood a 180* bend and then a return bend to straight and suffered no damage? Where is the video of this amazing feat? To me this sounds like a late night infomercial complete with no substantiating evidence, if these are so great why is there no proof other than an obvious shill article?
 
straightwalls said:
As everyone knows edge retention is only one important factor in measuring a blades quality.


Quote from article: This results in a blade whose edge is so hard that its Rockwell number is off the chart (65 to 68 on the C scale; 62 is regarded as absolute max on conventionally tempered blades) while the spine is Rc 42-45, about as hard as a rifle receiver.

The result is the same as Japanese swordsmiths achieved with katana blades—an extremely sharp, durable edge, and a nearly unbreakable blade. I once watched a Diamond Blade bent double in a vise, then bent straight again, and it didn’t care much if at all. :end quote

So a knife in D2 with an Rc on the edge of 65-68 withstood a 180* bend and then a return bend to straight and suffered no damage? Where is the video of this amazing feat? To me this sounds like a late night infomercial complete with no substantiating evidence, if these are so great why is there no proof other than an obvious shill article?
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I know right! I wish there were videos showing what they can do... I have not tested my 2 knives ( The summit, and the pd1) but I might do some testing on the PD1 and share my results.

The Summit's handle with the mosaic pins is just to perfect to abuse. You have to hold one to truly appreciate the perfection.
 
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I know right! I wish there were videos showing what they can do... I have not tested my 2 knives ( The summit, and the pd1) but I might do some testing on the PD1 and share my results.

The Summit's handle with the mosaic pins is just to perfect to abuse. You have to hold one to truly appreciate the perfection.
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Well they may be a fine quality knife, I have no experience with them, but when bold claims are made then that demands bold evidence or the claims actually tend to detract from your product. I actually have found D2 to be a very satisfactory knife steel, but I have serious doubts about the claims in the article, this causes me to feel as if I am being lied to and reduces the chances to near nil that I would take the leap and purchase. Please forgive me if I am wrong but your posts come off as having an ulterior motive when you claim these are the BEST PERIOD. Have you compared them to ALL other knife brands to qualify that statement? It reeks of BS.
 
OP joins to promote a specific brand and links to a shill article. Awesome.

D2 is D2. It's a decent steel but it's not the "best steel ever" no matter what process is used. Additionally, the knife pictured in the article has a very plain looking micarta type handle. Micarta and G-10 type materials are ridiculously common. There's nothing special about them.

100 yards of manila rope being cut is supposed to be impressive? I've seen testing where people cut over a mile of cardboard and the knife still shaved.

In short, I see some shill behavior and nothing to back it up.
 
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Well they may be a fine quality knife, I have no experience with them, but when bold claims are made then that demands bold evidence or the claims actually tend to detract from your product. I actually have found D2 to be a very satisfactory knife steel, but I have serious doubts about the claims in the article, this causes me to feel as if I am being lied to and reduces the chances to near nil that I would take the leap and purchase. Please forgive me if I am wrong but your posts come off as having an ulterior motive when you claim these are the BEST PERIOD. Have you compared them to ALL other knife brands to qualify that statement? It reeks of BS.
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No I obviously haven't compared them to every knife.. but I do own over $20,000 in knives and have used and sharpened a lot more. I am a knife collector and just wanted to start a thread about one of the "game changer" or "new" methods that is able to achieve such RC hardness. The company does send with each knife a study they have done with their friction forged steel vs others.

I am very interested in how the edge would hold up under heavy abuse though...
 
I am no way associated with the company or in any way benefiting from them. ... I posted this because there was not one thread about them and they are one of my favorite knife companies. Take a look into them if you want.. I don't care but I wish someone would have told me about them sooner and the thought people that love knives as much me would love to hear of something like this.
 
If you are truly a "game changer" then you act like it by showing proof of what your product does not by paying magazines to print false articles about you and posting them for free on forums, nothing here shows anything more than salesman selling "snake oil". Your shilling will not fly here and your opinions on overpriced knives are worthless without proof.
 
Boy, lot of hate on the forum tonight...

I mean the article is anecdotal, but I seriously doubt OP's intention was to "shill snake oil."
 
Skepticism is one thing, but accusing someone of being a shill for talking about a favorite knife brand is quite another imo. I thought that was what this forum was for, speaking about all things knife related. I just don't see the difference with OP's post talking about a knife he likes and any other brand related post, other than it's a brand you havent ever heard of.

After reading the article and related comments attached to the article it doesnt at all seem to be anyone shilling anything. Just a story of one writer's experience with one knife. Seems like any other knife review Ive ever seen to me.:confused:
 
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Skepticism is one thing, but accusing someone of being a shill for talking about a favorite knife brand is quite another imo. I thought that was what this forum was for, speaking about all things knife related. I just don't see the difference with OP's post talking about a knife he likes and any other brand related post, other than it's a brand you havent ever heard of.

After reading the article and related comments attached to the article it doesnt at all seem to be anyone shilling anything. Just a story of one writer's experience with one knife. Seems like any other knife review Ive ever seen to me.:confused:
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Then you haven't been around long enough, when a new member posts an article with BS claims that I quoted and calls the brand the "BEST PERIOD", then you have exposed yourself as a shill and are asking for a certain degree of response, well he got it. Put up or shut up. If he had claimed these knives were pretty good in his experience and performed as well as any other D2 knives that have been made well then nobody would have thought anything of it. But he decided to go all-in with a fools argument so he made himself the fool and I called it what it was, BS. D2 steel simply does not make a better knife than all others, materials have limitations, PERIOD, no matter the manufacturer, this is poorly veiled shilling.

Its very simple, make big claims, provide big proof.
 
I am a new member but im not a "shill".. the only claim I made was it out performs infi as far as edge retention. Its my favorite knife, with a unique forging method. I didnt think I needed to provide proof... I said I might test one of my knives, but It might break at my expense. Just wanted to hear your thoughts and opinions... Most have been good but a lot have been hostile for sure.

I agree I should not have made the title so controversial but with a 68 rc hardness some could argue they are!
 
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They are legitimate. There was a lot of talk about the process a few years ago when they were transitioning from developing and testing the technology to coming up with a marketable product. However, they have been around long enough that I don't think they belong in the "What's New" section - the general section would be more appropriate.
 
I read the technical articles surrounding the development of friction forged D-2. I was impressed by the test results, but I didn't get a F/F knife because I didn't like the models offered. They are quite expensive, and there aren't many dealers around. I fondled them at the Blade Show when Diamond Blade had a booth there. If the price drops or they offer more models, I would like to try one.
 
There are a number of threads about this brand of knives here at BF - overwhelmingly favorable comments including by actual experts. You could always try something exotic - like Google.
 
I'm put off by a journalist that claims to have seen the knife bent in two, then back again without issue, yet has no proof. Just about everyone has a decent camera in their pocket (smartphone). A writer for F&S watched an absurd demo like that and didn't even snap a pic or two?

No, there's no way D2 at that hardness bent 180 without shattering at the edge. If this demonstration existed they should throw the video in your face the second you hit their website. I didn't see it. I just saw some test videos shot with a Webcam from 1998. About as convincing as a sasquatch sighting.

The knife might be great, but I'm gonna call BS on that article.

The Meridian is a great looking knife, but too pricey for me.
 
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