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Is Brian Andrews not making knives anymore?!?

I was just reading the Spyderco Bushcraft thread and kgd mentioned it but I don't want to believe it.
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I hope everything is OK with him.
 
Hi Marcelo,

I think I might be able to help explain this :D

I made my first knife solely for me. I was in search of the perfect bushcraft knife. While the design is still around and literally unchanged, the fit and finish, and manufacturing details were not all that great. But, I figured if I liked the design, other people might as well. And things just snowballed from there. I also finally got my fit and finish to a level that I am quite happy with : ) Ironic.

I started receiving lots of e-mails on specs, handle material, thickness, steels and prices. It was all very time consuming. I figured that a formal website, with all the specs and all the options would be the way to go. It would allow people to figure out the knife they wanted, with the final options, all without having to contact me directly. Hopefully it would save everyone some time. Along with that came the website fees, hosting fees, credit card processing, phone line and other associated “business expenses.”

In order to cover these costs, and actually make a little money, I set a modest goal for the number of knives that I should make per month. Any less, and really seemed like “Why even bother?”

Those of you that know me, know that I have always considered myself a woods bum more than a knife maker. I do have a full time job, and have always done knives on the side. Also, that I have 3 kids that I try to get out in the woods as much as possible. My oldest son’s school is getting more and more involved and I don’t want to miss that. He also joined Scouts, and I want to be heavily involved in that. In fact, I somehow got signed up as the new den leader : ) I also feel like I have missed out on a lot of woods time, learning new skills, practicing old ones, and working with the kiddies on some.

I have always tried to do my knives early in the morning, or later at night, when the kids were in bed. While I was doing somewhat okay at that, I still found that my “free time” still had me very distracted by the many things that I had to do. Besides the fact that I seemed continually exhausted and the deadlines pushed my priorities in the wrong direction.

In order to spend the time in the woods and with the family that I want, I have decided to stop doing knives in the formal manner than I have been. Eventually, the Off The Map website will come down, and I will not take money for pre-orders. Instead, if you want one of my knives, I will go ahead and put you on a waiting list. Nothing formal, just give me a call, or shoot me an e-mail. The real difference is that I am not guaranteeing any time of delivery time. I am truly going to work on them in my “free time.” I have no idea what this may do the wait time or the demand (or lack of it) for my knives. But, it is what I need to do at this point in time.

What I can do is contact folks a week before I start on their knife and see if they still want it, or want any changes. If they want it, great! I will make it. If not, no biggie. I figure no money, no foul : )

You have to know that this is a hard decision for me. I finally got my knives to a fit and finish level that I am extremely proud of. This decision also comes at a time when I am hearing raving reviews from users about my knives. At the same time, every time I look at one of my kids, they look much older than they did the day before : ( I don’t want to miss a moment of it. Good or bad, this is the direction I think I have to go.

B
 
Brian-
From where I stand, that sounds like a fantastic decision. Best of luck to you and your family!

It's tough to see a good maker leave the market, but I think you're making the right move.
 
Thanks for sharing that Brian. I know where you're coming from. You are a very talented guy but I know you are making the right decision. I hope you still will be a presence here as I always enjoy your posts and pictures and how family oriented they are.
 
Good call Brian. I turned down a promotion last year because of the same reasons.

I support you - but man - you made nice stuff. I am now even more proud to have made Rock's sheath for him. Even more rare!

TF
 
Hate to hear that Brian, but I'm glad I already got the two from you that I have! They are beautiful knives and terrifyingly sharp! Good luck with the new direction.
 
I applaud your decision Brian. When you are 70 years old and look back, you are not going to say "I wish I made more knives." You are going to say, "I'm glad I spent as much time with my family as I did"

I'm just glad I already got a Bushcrafter from you!:)

Looking forward to seeing more pics of you and your family spending time in the woods!
 
Much respect Brian and good on you. I made a very similar decision lately and will miss some things, but not the important ones.
 
right on Brian..:thumbup: your family is definitely the most important.. these early seem to go by waaay too fast, slow down a little and you never know what you might miss...
 
its nice to hear that some people have there priorities straight cause were i live its a rare thing kudos to you
 
Good for you. As has been said already, it's great to see that you have your head on straight.

All I can say is... cool. :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
I really appreciate the level of skill you've achieved making knives, and I know that you can always find your way back to making knives on a regular schedule...but you can't always spend time with your kids after a certain point. This is my third deployment and I can't tell you how difficult it is to miss out on the big events in your children's lives. My daughter just went to her first "homecoming" this past weekend and it's killing me. I'm hoping to make it home for my son's field trip I want to attend with him.

Make a few knives and throw them up on the exchange; they will sell and your reputation will continue grow. Spend the real quality time with your family...once your kids are grown, you'll have more hobby time (unless you get blessed with grand-children!:D).

You made the right decision by me,

ROCK6
 
It's great that you put your family first and I completely understand your decision. Good luck to you and your family.

I still want one of your bushcraft knives, though.
 
Good for you! Family first, a rare decision these days, it seems. That said, I still want one of your knives!
 
Way to go Brian. Thats great. I know it is the right thing, spending more time in the woods and with the kids is NEVER a bad thing. :thumbup:
 
I've NEVER heard any one say "Boy, I wish I hadn't spent as much time with the kids when they were growing up". You'll never regret this choice and the knifemaking will still be there when you get back. My kids are 19 & 20 now and I'm getting back to some of the things I put off when they were coming up and it feels good to have the time but I dont regret the decision to make my kids a priority. Now go hug them kids!---Besides, Ive already got one of your bushcrafters!:D--Keith
 
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