Differences between low(er) and high(er) serial numbered 0560CBCF's

[mr_anderson]

The whole "I'm not very happy about this" bit.

Kidding about what?

 

[blevinsknives]

No I was not kidding about that. I think the knife is a great knife, but I don't like the fact that it was touted as being a "limited" run of 1000 pieces. If a company is going to say one thing and then do another where do you draw the line?

 

[mr_anderson]

It's been shown many times that Thomas said only 950 were produced. The most likely reason for the higher numbers is because some parts were rejected after being numbered, hence #1029. They didn't make more then they said. Stop getting your panties all twisted up.

 

[blevinsknives]

You need to stop worrying about anyone else's "panties". I simply asked how many were made. If you could have answered that in the first place then there wouldn't have been any trouble. There is nothing wrong with being concerned about a quantity made on a limited run knife when you are one who actually purchased one which I did.

 

[mr_anderson]

I have 3, thanks for asking. And it was posted how many were made earlier in the thread.

 

[blevinsknives]

I did go back and reread the thread, and noticed the 900-950 from a quote that I didn't see from before. It is a great knife, and I am glad to have been able to get one.

 

[FCM415]

If the serial numbers go over 1000, it should only mean that there were blems along the way so they had to go over. I'd pick up a blem

If no blems, and they did make more than 1000... the more the merrier!

 

[AdioSS]

So, how do I get a blem?

 

[TotalDbag]

So, how do I get a blem?

from what I heard, there are no blems.

 

[BobSig]

It's been shown many times that Thomas said only 950 were produced. The most likely reason for the higher numbers is because some parts were rejected after being numbered, hence #1029. They didn't make more then they said. Stop getting your panties all twisted up.

You tell em Anderson!

from what I heard, there are no blems.

I've also heard this.

Ive also heard that just because there is 1000 of these made, it doesn't mean they are all numbered 1-1000

 

[OvalmanPA]

You tell em Anderson!



I've also heard this.

Ive also heard that just because there is 1000 of these made, it doesn't mean they are all numbered 1-1000

Look at it like this guys. You are making knives, putting them through layout, grinding, finishing, and finally lazering the model number and serial number on the knife. You are of course going to have cut more than you'd need "just in case". During all this, a couple knives get to final inspection and something just isn't "quite right" with them. This is the reason for the "backups". They pull out one of the extras and lay the model and serial number on the knife. The computer doing this has been doing consecutive numbers on the knives up to this point so WHY would you waste the time to go in and reprogram the computer to go back and lay the same number on a replacement knife so the serials come out perfect? I know, long winded but it seems pretty simple to me, no?

 

[Luis G.]

Look at it like this guys. You are making knives, putting them through layout, grinding, finishing, and finally lazering the model number and serial number on the knife. You are of course going to have cut more than you'd need "just in case". During all this, a couple knives get to final inspection and something just isn't "quite right" with them. This is the reason for the "backups". They pull out one of the extras and lay the model and serial number on the knife. The computer doing this has been doing consecutive numbers on the knives up to this point so WHY would you waste the time to go in and reprogram the computer to go back and lay the same number on a replacement knife so the serials come out perfect? I know, long winded but it seems pretty simple to me, no?

This is correct.

Lastly why is there what appears to be a gap between the S110v and the other steel? I hope it's just the camera playing tricks on my eyes but if there was a gap I'd talk to kershaw about it to avoid delamination.
Been dealing with forge folded, and layered steels for long enough to know any gap in the steel whether laminated, or folded means it will likely delaminate over time.

 

[NeverMore1701]

This is correct.

Lastly why is there what appears to be a gap between the S110v and the other steel? I hope it's just the camera playing tricks on my eyes but if there was a gap I'd talk to kershaw about it to avoid delamination.
Been dealing with forge folded, and layered steels for long enough to know any gap in the steel whether laminated, or folded means it will likely delaminate over time.

This isn't forge folded or laminated, and he said the copper line is just darker.

 

[Luis G.]

This isn't forge folded or laminated, and he said the copper line is just darker.

Nevermind it's just my screen. Just looked at it on my better monitor.

 

[TotalDbag]

This isn't forge folded or laminated, and he said the copper line is just darker.

Indeed, it's more of a bronze color.

 

[sticktodrum]

1029??? I was under the impression that this knife was limited to only 1000 pieces! I am not very happy about that since that reduces the rarity that much more. I would like to know what the actual production number ended up being.

No I was not kidding about that. I think the knife is a great knife, but I don't like the fact that it was touted as being a "limited" run of 1000 pieces. If a company is going to say one thing and then do another where do you draw the line?

You need to stop worrying about anyone else's "panties". I simply asked how many were made. If you could have answered that in the first place then there wouldn't have been any trouble. There is nothing wrong with being concerned about a quantity made on a limited run knife when you are one who actually purchased one which I did.

I did go back and reread the thread, and noticed the 900-950 from a quote that I didn't see from before. It is a great knife, and I am glad to have been able to get one.

So just to recap... you were pissy because the "rarity" is reduced by the run of knives having pieces that are marked over the 1000 projection...despite it being confirmed already that there weren't even 1000 pieces shipped.

Then, you put "limited" in quotes to (what looks like) mark some kind of sarcasm about the fact that it is indeed a limited production of less than 1000 pieces and bring in the idea of companies doing something different from what they say. You capped that off by asking about drawing the line, as if making more pieces of a limited run to make up for the percentage that doesn't pass QC is either a company not doing what they say or that it even matters if a company says 1000 and makes 1029.

Thirdly, you say "I simply asked how many were made" which is demonstrably false considering what you actually said was "1029??? I was under the impression that this knife was limited to only 1000 pieces! I am not very happy about that since that reduces the rarity that much more." Going forward with words like "If you could have answered that in the first place then there wouldn't have been any trouble" sounds like either the company or anyone here owes you an explanation (and has a bit of a threatening tone to it).


It is a great knife, and I'm glad to have gotten enough of them that you can rest assured that there are now certainly less than 1000 pieces floating around. See how much better it is when we're all just nice to one another?

 

[mr_anderson]

Stamp 4 X's on one and bingo.

So, how do I get a blem?

 

[JigsawCrisis]

No I was not kidding about that. I think the knife is a great knife, but I don't like the fact that it was touted as being a "limited" run of 1000 pieces. If a company is going to say one thing and then do another where do you draw the line?

TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTE ON THE MONEY. I used the Lexus LFA example... if over 500 were made.. and even after pre-orders were placed for them. That is just plain horse shit from a company, if they do it.

 

[JigsawCrisis]

Look at it like this guys. You are making knives, putting them through layout, grinding, finishing, and finally lazering the model number and serial number on the knife. You are of course going to have cut more than you'd need "just in case". During all this, a couple knives get to final inspection and something just isn't "quite right" with them. This is the reason for the "backups". They pull out one of the extras and lay the model and serial number on the knife. The computer doing this has been doing consecutive numbers on the knives up to this point so WHY would you waste the time to go in and reprogram the computer to go back and lay the same number on a replacement knife so the serials come out perfect? I know, long winded but it seems pretty simple to me, no?

I see you point, and its a good one. Just would like to see KAI respond to this on this thread or their facebook page or some public medium. A final word would be nice

 

[chester22]

They don't have to answer to anybody. Its people like you who are destroying the knife industry with insane expectations. And are also destroying the knife hobby for us.