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ChungSan

ChungSan

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In the past month I have made a couple of pretty good deals acquiring new balisongs.

My latest is a horror story. I was scanning thru Ebay when I saw a BM42S listed. I knew Ebay would pull it soon, but I bid on it anyway. There was even a picture of a brand new BM42S to view.(the item was listed nib) Ebay did pull the auction. At the time they pulled it I had the winning bid of $50 dollars.

I offered the person which I will not name $60 dollars for the knife hoping he would sell it anyway. He agreed.

Two weeks later as I anxiously await its arrival it came. I opened up the package to find a beat up old Jaguar Model Hc-23S.

I contacted the man and he said he had never mentioned that it was benchmade. He also said that he stated his knife only looked like the picture he listed. (Don't we all wish Jaguars looked like the BM42S)

His last email stated that a purchase is a purchase.

My thoughts are that a dishonest person is a dishonest person.

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Chung San

Butterfly Knife Exchange
www.butterflyknifeexchange.com
"A new kind of balisong store"
 
Welcome to the world of collecting where you sometime send money (and I gotta say that $60 isn't much) off for a promising piece and it turns out to be less than expected. I've done it. You've just gotta do it.

Now, in this case, and remember that we've only heard your side of the story, it seems to me that you've stumbled into a bad seller. Inasmuchas the sale took place outside of eBay, you can't leave feedback on eBay. But, you should share that person's name and address along with the facts of the situation, and stick stricktly to the facts, with the rest of folks here at bladeforums.com, not as any sort of retribution, but in order to keep the rest of us from also being victimized by this person. The proper place to do that is in "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" forum. It would also be polite of you to drop your seller an e-mail along with a link to your thread so that they can see what you're saying about them and, if they feel motivated to do so, can respond.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
Sorry to hear that ChungSan.....
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I guess the old adage of "buyer beware" holds true more than ever when dealing with unknown people over the 'net. It's a shame because it causes a lot of grief to expect one thing, wait for so long, and get a POS for your hard-earned money and have to deal with some rip-off %$@^#^%! Keep the ol' chin up and better luck in the future.........
 
Sorry about your misfortune ChungSan! Don't let it turn you off to internet deals tho - I guess I've been lucky so far, but have done dozens of deals with "strangers" and haven't had a bad experience yet.

Bob

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>>Two weeks later as I anxiously await its arrival it came. I opened up the package to find a beat up old Jaguar Model Hc-23S.

That is the problem with a theif, is that they are stupid. It's no wonder so many of them end up getting caught. Usually for mail fraud, they have to have more than one complaint. But if they get 10 or 12 complains on someone, the police will go out and pick him up and send him to court.
 
>> Inasmuchas the sale took place outside of eBay, you can't leave feedback on eBay.

Unless the person is still running auctions, then any winning bidder can leave a feedback. If the person does not run a lot of auctions, it's not a real good idea to send them very much money, unless you check them out real good. For example, if you have a phone number. Most people are not going to mess with you, if you can call up their home phone and talk to their wife when they are at work. Also, many states have "long arm" provisions, to where you can take someone to small claims court. Of course that is only of value if they have a job to where the state can go in and garnish their wages. Or if they live in Canada, the court system there will not back up a decision made in a court system in this country. As they say, it ain't over tell the fat lady sings, and right now, she is just laughing
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Thanks, JohnR7 www.BalisongKnife.com
 
One of the best protections you can get is to buy a postal money order. They cost very little and yet they are backed up by the US Postal Inspectors Office and the Post Office does take them very seriously. When postal money orders are involved, they will agressively investigate and prosecute frauds and misdealings. And, since they're federal, well, it doesn't matter what state you're in.

You might think, "Well, for a big deal, maybe a few tens of thousands of dollars, maybe they'd put some leg work into it." But, the biggest postal money order you can buy is $800. (For bigger deals, just use muliple money orders.) I've heard stories of the post office putting quite a bit of effort into running down frauds involving only $50. That's the service you get for the price of the money order.



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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com
 
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