Do any of you use a flat stone?

[RLR]

Bus Driver - yes I still use the Norton Oil Stones (but with lots of soap and some water!) on hard steels. I get s30v and D2 sharp and even.

 

[dc50]

I use flatstones, Sharpmaker, Doublestuff, and the little 701 set of stones.



Jason

Jason are the 701 stones just the stones,not the whole Sharpmaker set?
And Doublestuff ?

Dave

 

[dc50]

Bus Driver - yes I still use the Norton Oil Stones (but with lots of soap and some water!) on hard steels. I get s30v and D2 sharp and even.

RLR Thanks for answering
Do you just put dish washing soap on the stones and go at it, no oil ?

 

[Maarten]

Jason are the 701 stones just the stones,not the whole Sharpmaker set?
And Doublestuff ?

Dave

Dave the 701 set has different shape .

The rods on the 204 set are triangular shaped. The corners only used on serrated blades. And corners & flats for all other bladestyles.

The 701 set consists of 2 rods in a leather sheath. the rods are rounded instead of triangular shaped on one side and narrower shaped on other side (for serrrations fe ); They don't come with a plastic base for setup.

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[Shaggy8675]

I've been using a flat stones for years on all my knives. 1 rougher model and 1 finer model. A little drop of machining oil and i can get anny normal knife razor sharp. ( i used to work at a slaugterhouse so i think i can sharpen a little bit )

But i am looking to buy a Sharpmaker. I've never used them but they look great and if i see how sharp spydies come out of the box it must be worth wild. Especially for the serrations.

Sharpmakers are not easy to get here were i live, so have to get one from E-bay. But that's ok seeing the Euro/Dollar comparison :thumbup:

 

[The Deacon]

Been sharpening knives for over 50 years. Aside from a brief, failed, attempt to learn how to use a Sharpmaker, all of it has been with flat stones. Currently, almost all my sharpening is done with a pair of DMT Diamond Whetsones and a Smith's Hard Arkansas stone.

Paul

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[Sal Glesser]

I use flat stones. I still use a Norton "Triple-flip". I carry a ceramic duckfoot (called the Golden Stone) with me when I travel, and often use the flat section.

When reprofiling to thinner than 30 degrees, just playing with the edge, maintaining a very thin edge, flat stones are good. I used a flat stone to maintain my straight razors when I was shaving with one.

For serrations, for recurves and hawkbills as well, Tri-Angle.

Most of the time, I'm just "getting-er-done", the Tri-Angle is hard to beat. I touch up often, rather than sit down and sharpen. We keep a Tri-angle on the counter, set at 30 degrees white corner. quick and easy, especially on maintining ZDP. Works better little and often on ZDP.

For those that have never used a flat stone, I would sugget watching the Tri-angle DVD and get down the basics of understanding the edge, then go for it on the flat stone. It is a good thing to know and a fun learning curve.

sal

 

[RLR]

Bus Driver - yeah, dish soap, loaded on. Don't remember where I learned that, but it works great and isn't messy.

 

[miro44]

I also do alot of sharpening on a flat stone.Sure it' s not as easy as with the Sharpmaker, but it' s definitely alot of fun, and brings good results!

 

[dc50]

I use flat stones. I still use a Norton "Triple-flip". I carry a ceramic duckfoot (called the Golden Stone) with me when I travel, and often use the flat section.

When reprofiling to thinner than 30 degrees, just playing with the edge, maintaining a very thin edge, flat stones are good. I used a flat stone to maintain my straight razors when I was shaving with one.

For serrations, for recurves and hawkbills as well, Tri-Angle.

Most of the time, I'm just "getting-er-done", the Tri-Angle is hard to beat. I touch up often, rather than sit down and sharpen. We keep a Tri-angle on the counter, set at 30 degrees white corner. quick and easy, especially on maintining ZDP. Works better little and often on ZDP.

For those that have never used a flat stone, I would sugget watching the Tri-angle DVD and get down the basics of understanding the edge, then go for it on the flat stone. It is a good thing to know and a fun learning curve.

sal

Thanks sal, even the Master uses a flat stone. And for keeping the edge's up, using the Sharpmaker,seems to be the way to go.
Good stuff

 

[A.P.F.]

I do all my touch-ups with a Smith's Hard Arkansas stone. I have been very pleased with the results.

 

[Maarten]

"I have a duckfoot diamond coated on my to buy list. They are affordable and might be handy for odd bladeshapes like hawkbills and recurves."
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Maarten, Let us know how the duckfoot works

Dave,

I have got my duckfoot and already used it on a small hawkbill;

It comes with a video cd on which Sal explains the manufacturing process & ways to use it properly.

The reason i got this one next to my dmt flat one and 204 set is that it has a coarser grit then the 204 brown stones. 600 grit coating. Sometimes i'm a bit lazy about touch up on frequently used hawkbill and recurved blades. The ceramic brown stones will take more afford to create a sharp edge again. The duckfoot has a somewhat coarser edge. I think it is comparible to the DMT fine stone.

The advantage of this one . Compact so good for traveling. The coating is all over the steel surface so if you are freehanding you can use it for odd shaped tools & knives.

It has a 1 by 5 inch flatstone surface . The edges used in vertical set up will create a 40 degree included angle. Horizontal a 12,5 degree angle (fe for scissors).
On the other side of the flat surface there are 3 grooves for sharpening small chisels, icepicks,fishhooks dart points etc.

The corners are rounded and narrow on the other side so good for any edge type.

Somehow they work easier on a hawkbill blade then the triangle shaped corners of the 204 set imo.

I did not use it much yet as all my blades in the house are already sharpe except for some cheap scissors i might experiment on.

Overall i'm pleased with this affordable tool.

Cheers Maarten.

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There also is a simular shaped Ultra Fine Ceramic one in the making i might pick up later.

 

[dc50]

Maarten,
Bedankt!

A very nice report on the Duck

I'm sure many will appreciate your review. These reviews, either on a knife or sharpener,are great,as it helps one to decide,a purchase or not.


Vrede aan U,

Dave

 

[Shaggy8675]

Flat stones work perfectly for me. But i do tend to get a SpyderBite more often

I do have to get a sharpmaker sometime

 

[HOUNDDAWG]

25 years ago I used the Lansky system with the bracket and angled guide, and then my father-in-law gave me a 4" med DMT stone, and that made all of my other sharpening stuff obsolete.

Unless I break a tip off (which I don't do) I have no use for the Lansky tools anymore. Two DMTs (blue and red) wielded free hand have kept all of my edged tools in tip top shape.