Do Busse knife owner's have bigger 'paynis's'?

Melvin-Purvis

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Ok, so that was 'wrong', but bear with me here for a bit...

I'm a RMK collector, owning many...something like 50, and yes, they're 'ok' knives,, useful to some degree, etc...with collector value, recognized resell value, yada, yada...

I'm also a collector of Applegate/Fairbairn fixed blade fighters, having most variants...but they are what they are, and nothing more...

Al Mar SERE's too...one of each, a real 'show collection', cool knives, lots of charm, very hard to find...a good 'hard use' history too...

But Busse's, aren't they the just about the best production fixed blade knife 'out there' today? I'd like to think so.

So, I was a bit taken back when a knowledgeable knife friend, and fellow Busse owner, mentioned today that he thought the Busse group over at BFC were becoming just another group of 'My knife is better than your knife' snobs...

Say it ain't so Joe! This isn't true is it guys? Sure, Busse makes one of, if not the best, fixed blade knives out there...we all know that, and you should be duly proud of your possession's...

But, you guys aren't getting 'snobbish' are you? That would be bad form fella's, and besides, we have 'plenty of those types' already, don't we?

Anyhoo, you guys collect some of the best/cleanest 'hard use' fixed blades available...that should be enough, right? ;)

Mel
 
Well Mel, here's my take...

Am I a snob? Yes, to some degree and about certain things...

I am a beer snob (blame it on living in Germany for a while).
I am a food snob (again, blame it on Europe and being blessed with a fine cook for a wife)
I am a gun snob.
And, yes, I suppose I could be considered a knife snob, but I see it as being more of a Busse zealot.:rolleyes:

The fact is, I don't think that having discriminating tastes in those area that you are passionate about is a bad thing. I am an avid "liver". And anything that aids in my being able to continue to "live" is fair game for discrimination and subsequent snobbery. Food, beer, guns, and knives all fall into that catagory for me.

So, do I own Busses? Yes. Have I owned other brands? Yes. Will I buy another brand of knife again? Likely not. Call me a snob if you must, but I am comfortable with that label.
 
I understand and appreciate your words, and to some degree, agree.

The underlying point was; snobbery turns off many, especially the novices.

I can't personally see that there is 'any' reason why Busse user/collectors should become 'snobbish'...you guys have the best game in town, so there is no 'need' to be snobs...

The keys of course are to turn the new guys on, strengthen the brand name, enjoy your 'hard use' knives, and your vested financial position will grow...

Yet, if you become 'fanatical', you'll soon see a short term influx of profiteer/groupies, those that'll later walk at the drop of a hat...and with such a quality product as a Busse knife, that would be a real shame. Ya know?

Anyhoo, you guys, all of you, have a 'good thing going', and that's pretty darn special if you ask me...and in the long term, rare.

Loving the knives, and the camaraderie shown here...'Stay Sharp'

Mel
 
Well, I think you are right to a point, Mel. I guess it depends on how you define "snob". I'm not assigning a particularly derogatory meaning to the word. I am looking at things from the perspective that I know what I want, what I want/have is the best in my eyes, and I plan to buy more of it to the point of exclusivity.

On the other hand, if you are assuming that "snob" means that I am looking down on others for not buying Busses or thinking that they are less than worthy of being included in the Busse "fold" simply because they own and buy other brands of knives... that definition does not fit my situation. I am not that sort of "snob".
 
Mel - thanks for joining our forum. We welcome your feedback, and especially anything that would make our forum even better.

As for your point, I guess we all love our Busses - and for good reasons! But we are also open minded to newbies and even competitors (if there is such a thing ;) !

Anyway, hope you are no stranger to our forum!

Marc
 
"MP", welcome back to the forums.

I think that the influx here of newer Busse-ites may from time to time see some new-kid enthusiasm, which could be mis-understood as snobbish actions, but they are, or should be, pretty short lived.

I know that there are some excellent products out there, and that that would not be true if everyone didn't have their own individual opinions. If we all had the same likes and dislikes, this ol' world would really suck and be pretty boring.

It is great to see the new kids posting. I know that a few veterans have interceeded in some "discussions" to ensure they stayed discussions and didn't morph into something none of us like.

You should know, having been around a while yourself, that flaming never really solves anything.

And, I know the mod crew (at least me) won't hesitate to ensure (by whatever means necessary..) that all of the kids play well with each other.

Mike
 
Haha I think the paynis comment was just another Billy Tran joke...:D

Yea, Busse's rock, solid and pretty much indestructible, if you break it you probably broke yourself in the process too....

Now make them as fat as Al Roker already!:D ;)
 
Well, I must admit the first time I stumbled on to the Busse forums I figured to myself, "Damn these guys sure love these knives!" and some of the talk about them seemed like bragging or trash talking, with a sense of un-intentional arrogance. But what I didn't realize then and I have come to learn is that the Busse owners on this board are not arrogant snobs, but the testiamony of the CONVERTED.
I bought my first Busse to see what all the fuss was about, and soon enough I was cleaning out my collection. Knives that were treasured items soon became un-worthy of carry. I began to question why no other knife makers were innovating with new steels, coatings or handles. I began to love the design and function of the Busse knives, the thought that went into the E-handle, the performance of INFI and the Attitude and customer service of Busse Combat. These reasons and more have contributed to myself becoming what I proudly describe as an O.I.N.K'er, and like a born again Christian I will continue to preach the gospel of Real performance knives from Busse Combat.
Plus like they say in Texas, - It ain't bragging if it's True.
To those snooping and who may also think it is all hype or talk, All I can say is buy one and try one!
 
EVERY hobby or avocation has an "elite" level.

My speakers are $20K. I have an "issue" as my wife will tell you, about high-end audio gear.

Knives: the same. Good enough (Bose) is NOT good enough for us.

Period.

Snob.

Yup.
 
I have to admit that I am not sure what the meaning of the original post is supposed to be. It seems to be an attempt at friendly chastising and uncalled for in my opionion.

As far as snob goes, I own a lot of brands. Recent purchases include: Busse, Swamp Rat, Chris Reeve, Benchmade. I own some Gerbers and bucks and some stuff from American Tomahawk Co.

I like quality in anything. Glocks, Kahr, Browning, Surefires etc.If any part of that makes me a snob, then I can't help it. To me a snob has a better than you attitude, and I for one have never seen anyone here act like that toward anyone else. We do seem to be a close knit type of folks who like to joke around. I hope that people are not put off by our "comfortable with each other" nature. I like to see this paticular board grow, as well as all of blade forums. So if you are new here..Welcome. You don't have to have a Busse to come play here. I was here months before I took the plunge. There is my take on it, but like I said: I didn't really understand the question or comment. It must be beneath me:p :D
 
Interesting topic. I consider myself one of the 'newer guys' still (though Ive had the pleasure of dealing with many of the hogs already), and what I like about the guys here, is their love for Busses, as well as their outlook on all things in general. For the most part, the guys (and gals!) around the Busse section here are very open to any knives that serve their purpose, and serve it well. Rather it be something built tough, but cosmetically not-so-pleasing. Or a piece that holds great beauty and will likely never leave its velvet lined display case. No matter what name/brand/maker one prefers, everyone is entitled to their own opinions/taste and I think we should all respect that.
(EVEN THOUGH BUSSES ARE THE BEST BUAHAHHAHA!!!) I kidd, I kidd..or do I? :p
 
Mel, our paynises are not necessarily bigger, but they are damn near indestructable! And, they are guaranteed for life! :D
 
Mel: Am I a snob? Well, I find those who derive their sense of status or self worth from ownership of a particular car, boat, firearm, knife, bank account, etc., to be a trifle pathetic, and I sincerely hope that I do not emulate them.

On the other hand, I have a deep, enduring appreciation of intrinsic value, and find Busses to represent the very finest in value in knives. I associate value with utility and usability, not with decoration, image, or ostentacious design. I have found nowhere else in the knife world the value I perceive in a Busse knife, and have no real interest in any others. That being the case, I like to be a part of this group which I believe appreciates that value as much as I do. If that makes me a snob, hey - I can live with it.
 
Mel:

Welcome to the forum, and thanks for inquiring about my penis. Unfortunately I can't say whether it's bigger than one of a RMK collector, Microtech collector, or any other collector for that matter...it probably has something to do with my fear of any penis which isn't directly attached to my body...go figure :rolleyes:


Now as to the second part of Busse owners being snobs, I know I'm not for one large reason...out of all my Busse knives only two ever get used, therefore I would never be able to prove that my Busse knives are better than any other knives. Acting like a snob would lead me down a dark road from which I would never return. As for others, the majority of people on this forum that I consider friends are of excellent character (yes even you stinky). They may be outspoken about their Busses, but every one of them has a great respect for other makers and manufacturers and their work.


Many times people have asked me if I'm a Busse Fanatic, I'm very confident and proud to say no...I'm a Knife Fantatic. Busse's are some of my favorite knives, however there are many other makers & manufacturs for which ownership of their work brings me great pleasure and satisfaction.
 
"Forgot to mention the 12 inch Taliwhacker!"
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Ok, I'm sold guys...looks like it's time to start collecting 'Busse Made Knives' too...

alphamaniv, in an attempt to answer your somewhat perplexing question...

My wife Edna and I collect knives, show knives, write about knives, and to a very limited degree sell knives...but more importantly, we try to share what we've learned with others, strip away the hype, speak factually, and help out the novices as they get up to speed...in other words, we're 'knife folks'... :)

My initial post was many fold, to wit; 'Hi, we're here and collecting Busse's now, and we'll need your help making the right choices' (thanks for the warm welcome guys); Having just stumbled dazed out of the disinformation/misinformation minefield that 'is' collecting Randall Made Knives today, I'm hoping not to repeat such mental warfare again anytime soon; not to take oneself to seriously; and a recognition of the quality product represented by 'Busse Made Knives'...

(I get the feeling that most folks caught the 'Billy Tran' joke...lol)

The bottom line is that 'Team Busse' and the Busse enthusiast's here seem to be some of the more 'well adjusted' knife enthusiast's on the forums today, and to hear that they may've been taking themselves a bit more serious than usual was somewhat disconcerting... *add requisite smily face icon here*

Wow, 12 inch Taliwhacker's? Damn, I'm in good company then eh? ;)

Mel
 
I think, to a large extent, the head of a company sets the tone for that company. In these forums, that extends from the company itself to the enthusiasts that frequent a particular forum.

IMO, Jerry is a grade-A class act. Yes, he does drive us completely nuts from time to time, but he does business with a high degree of integrity. He stands solidly behind his product, and his claims for that product. He also gives credit, where due, to other makers and manufacturers.

Regarding snobbery - it's good to buy what you believe in, provided that belief is well-founded. However, you need to keep your eyes open for other good things. Also, what works best for one person will not work for everyone. Can a $50 knife from Walmart be as good a value as a $350 Busse? I would say yes, but it depends on the person using a knife and their needs. For example, a knife could saw fifty tanks in half and stay shaving sharp, but it's not a good value for the guy who just needs something to skin a deer so he can put food on the table. If I like brand X, that doesn't give me the right to launch a crusade against all brand X infidels.

My $.005, YMMV
 
Originally posted by Melvin-Purvis


alphamaniv, in an attempt to answer your somewhat perplexing question...
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See, that's what listening to me will get 'cha. I didn't even know I asked a question.:rolleyes: :D Welcome to the nut house. I happen to have one of those 12 inch tali whackers but I sold the other one:eek: So I'll have to keep the one I have. Since your kinda new at this, go ahead and route all your new INFI purchases through me. I will inspect them for you and make sure they are the real deal. inspection peroid lasts for my life time and the lifetime of any and all of my heirs After the inspection period, I'll send them on to you. I don't charge for this service, because I am a giver. I just want to help.;)
 
You are good people Alpha. . . downright good people!

Welcome Melvin! I'm only a snob when it comes to beer and cigars. CBL and Gold and Milds. . . .Good times. . . .good times. . .. all for less than a $1.00 !!!! ;)
 
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