ShadyMethods
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I'm starting this thread for 2 reasons. First, to warn everyone about this scumbag and second, to add insult to injury to a wannabe scammer. The person in question is Brian Fortune. His address is:
97 Glen Rd
Wilmington, MA 01887
xnme69@outlook.com and BAFCoinc@gmail.com are 2 emails associated with him.
Do not do any kind of deal with this guy. If you buy from him, you are supporting a thief. If you sell to him, you risk your item. You can do everything right and still get screwed. Our deal happened on ebay but I think it's worthwhile to expose scammers wherever they are. It might prevent someone here from getting scammed in the future.
Story is, I listed a knife up for a 7-day auction and bafcoincorporated ended up winning it on 9/17 for $610. He paid 5 days later on 9/22. I shipped it the next day with signature confirmation (tracking number: 9402109699938796913097) and it was delivered and signed for on 9/25. The next day, I get these 2 messages on ebay:
"Hi
I just received my package and I beleive you got your packages mixed up. Im a lirttle disapointed because Ive been waiting for my knife for awhile now and you sent me someone elses items. I wouldnt be so upset if this wasnt such an expensive purchase, but I spent a lot of money here to have something like this get messed up is just not professional at all! I was suppose to receive the red G&G Mud Knife with Carbon Fiber. I received a Protac 1AA Flashlight with serial# 046758 0811. I also received a Mossy Oak Brand Camo Money Clip. They were not packaged good at all either! Before I even opened the box i could hear and feel the items rattling around which had me really concerned before i even opened the box because I thought it was my $600 knife rattling around like that! CONTINUED ON NEXT MESSAGE
(READ PREVIOUS MESSAGE FIRST CONTINUED FROM LAST MESSAGE)I was already extremely upset as I was opening the package. There was nothing protecting the two items at all and I wouldnt think that you or anyone else would just throw such an expensive knife in a box and ship it out like that. Im suprised you even shipped a couple items like this out in such a way regardless if they are expensive or not. So i am very upset here for not receiving the correct item and and also because of the way you package your items! Can you please let me know whats going on. I hope you didnt send it to someone else and if you did I really hope you will be able to get the knife back. Please get back to me asap. Thank you."
It was badly written, got a few details wrong (knife was orange), and overall just seemed staged. I tell him I've never owned either of those 2 items, he paid 5 days late so it was shipped by itself, and that I would never package it like that. I ask him for photos, hoping he was just an idiot that got mixed up. He sends over some photos of his flashlight and money clip. One of them included the same shipping label I used to ship the knife (shown below). He opened a PayPal dispute the same day, placing the cash on hold. I realize he's abusing buyer protection and using it to try to scam me. I escalate it into a full claim.
The next couple weeks were hell. PayPal always favors the buyer so it was an uphill battle from the start. Then with the way he did this, I can't file an insurance claim, he just has to sit back while I waste my time, and in the end it was my word against his. I'm on and off the phone with PayPal regularly. Some representatives seemed like they genuinely wanted to help, while others just didn't care or wanted me to hang up. For the latter, I asked for a supervisor. I send over all the proof and evidence they ask for and on 10/6 they decide against me, telling him to "ship back" his $30 flashlight for a full refund. I almost lose it and call them again. A supervisor on PayPal said that it's already been decided and there wasn't anything he could do. But, he tells me to file an appeal, saying that it's part of the process and it's to ensure that I don't get hit with a chargeback since it undoes the original sale. I thank him for the info and end the call not knowing whether or not that was just some BS to pacify me.
10/12 comes around and I get his package. I open up an appeal after having to speak to another supervisor. They ask for an official government document so I file a police report and send it over. At this point, he's running around the the knife and my cash. They deny my appeal and closed it on 10/20. I call to reopen it the same day. I spend the next few days getting info and trying to figure out what went wrong. Then out of nowhere on Monday, I get an email saying that the case was decided in my favor.
To Brian Fortune: I WIN. Thanks for taking the time, money, and effort to ship me a free light. I hope you choke on the knife.
97 Glen Rd
Wilmington, MA 01887
xnme69@outlook.com and BAFCoinc@gmail.com are 2 emails associated with him.
Do not do any kind of deal with this guy. If you buy from him, you are supporting a thief. If you sell to him, you risk your item. You can do everything right and still get screwed. Our deal happened on ebay but I think it's worthwhile to expose scammers wherever they are. It might prevent someone here from getting scammed in the future.
Story is, I listed a knife up for a 7-day auction and bafcoincorporated ended up winning it on 9/17 for $610. He paid 5 days later on 9/22. I shipped it the next day with signature confirmation (tracking number: 9402109699938796913097) and it was delivered and signed for on 9/25. The next day, I get these 2 messages on ebay:
"Hi
I just received my package and I beleive you got your packages mixed up. Im a lirttle disapointed because Ive been waiting for my knife for awhile now and you sent me someone elses items. I wouldnt be so upset if this wasnt such an expensive purchase, but I spent a lot of money here to have something like this get messed up is just not professional at all! I was suppose to receive the red G&G Mud Knife with Carbon Fiber. I received a Protac 1AA Flashlight with serial# 046758 0811. I also received a Mossy Oak Brand Camo Money Clip. They were not packaged good at all either! Before I even opened the box i could hear and feel the items rattling around which had me really concerned before i even opened the box because I thought it was my $600 knife rattling around like that! CONTINUED ON NEXT MESSAGE
(READ PREVIOUS MESSAGE FIRST CONTINUED FROM LAST MESSAGE)I was already extremely upset as I was opening the package. There was nothing protecting the two items at all and I wouldnt think that you or anyone else would just throw such an expensive knife in a box and ship it out like that. Im suprised you even shipped a couple items like this out in such a way regardless if they are expensive or not. So i am very upset here for not receiving the correct item and and also because of the way you package your items! Can you please let me know whats going on. I hope you didnt send it to someone else and if you did I really hope you will be able to get the knife back. Please get back to me asap. Thank you."
It was badly written, got a few details wrong (knife was orange), and overall just seemed staged. I tell him I've never owned either of those 2 items, he paid 5 days late so it was shipped by itself, and that I would never package it like that. I ask him for photos, hoping he was just an idiot that got mixed up. He sends over some photos of his flashlight and money clip. One of them included the same shipping label I used to ship the knife (shown below). He opened a PayPal dispute the same day, placing the cash on hold. I realize he's abusing buyer protection and using it to try to scam me. I escalate it into a full claim.
The next couple weeks were hell. PayPal always favors the buyer so it was an uphill battle from the start. Then with the way he did this, I can't file an insurance claim, he just has to sit back while I waste my time, and in the end it was my word against his. I'm on and off the phone with PayPal regularly. Some representatives seemed like they genuinely wanted to help, while others just didn't care or wanted me to hang up. For the latter, I asked for a supervisor. I send over all the proof and evidence they ask for and on 10/6 they decide against me, telling him to "ship back" his $30 flashlight for a full refund. I almost lose it and call them again. A supervisor on PayPal said that it's already been decided and there wasn't anything he could do. But, he tells me to file an appeal, saying that it's part of the process and it's to ensure that I don't get hit with a chargeback since it undoes the original sale. I thank him for the info and end the call not knowing whether or not that was just some BS to pacify me.
10/12 comes around and I get his package. I open up an appeal after having to speak to another supervisor. They ask for an official government document so I file a police report and send it over. At this point, he's running around the the knife and my cash. They deny my appeal and closed it on 10/20. I call to reopen it the same day. I spend the next few days getting info and trying to figure out what went wrong. Then out of nowhere on Monday, I get an email saying that the case was decided in my favor.
To Brian Fortune: I WIN. Thanks for taking the time, money, and effort to ship me a free light. I hope you choke on the knife.
