do you consider SAKs high quality

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paulwesley

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i have a super tinker and its built like a rock also have a one handed trekker thats built good too but just has a little blade play that i can live with. whats your opinions guys...p
 
I think that Victorinox SAK's are some of the best knives on the planet. They have great fit and finish, are high quality, and do the job. They do all this for usually under $25 to.

I really like them.

Most people will not admit it but they probably don't need anything more than a SAK on a regular basis.
 
SAKs are definately not expensive but definately high qaulity. I own a few good models that have held up to almost anything for a small knife and never had any problems with them.
 
I consider them superb quality, for their price. They are good quality, regardless of price. I think that makes them pretty amazing. I've only got four SAKs and the ones that I got new came very sharp from the box. I did manage to kill one of them, but that was prying too hard (should'a used my prybaby!).
 
I do not have any of the models released in recent years but every SAK I've ever seen was made with mystery metal. You had no idea what kind of steel the blades were made of, not something I like. For a kid, boyscout or someone not interested in quality materials I think they fit perfectly though. Myself, I would not trust my life to a tool with a red plastic handle. Flame me if you want but that is how I feel about it.
 
olaf_yahoo said:
I do not have any of the models released in recent years but every SAK I've ever seen was made with mystery metal. You had no idea what kind of steel the blades were made of, not something I like. For a kid, boyscout or someone not interested in quality materials I think they fit perfectly though. Myself, I would not trust my life to a tool with a red plastic handle. Flame me if you want but that is how I feel about it.
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It is cellidor for your information (the handles). If you've ever taken a SAK apart you would know it's just for looks and the handles are not even needed.

As far as steel goes nobody needs to know what steel a SAK uses. It's only us goofy knife nuts that would care. The point is they use a good steel and they heat treat it properly and it works very well.

I think you have a lot to learn my friend.

Before saying what you did I suggest you take a SAK apart. I have and I have put them back together with new handles also. Wood handles.
 
olaf_yahoo said:
I do not have any of the models released in recent years but every SAK I've ever seen was made with mystery metal. You had no idea what kind of steel the blades were made of, not something I like. For a kid, boyscout or someone not interested in quality materials I think they fit perfectly though. Myself, I would not trust my life to a tool with a red plastic handle. Flame me if you want but that is how I feel about it.
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What about ALOX my friend :D

Dunc
 
I have owned about 20 or more, still failed to break one by normal use. The SAK`s are of very good quality. The steel is not named but what does that matter? I don`t care what typ of steel they are using as long as it does its job. They are no prybars and maybe not top of the shelf when it comes to edge retention but I haven`t seen another Knife of that type and for the money that can beat them. In fact, most manufacturers are not able to make a comparable knife for double the price. SAK hold the edge ok, are easy to sharpen and very corrosion resistant.I will never be without one. Red plastic handle? Well- if you take the scales of you still have a 100% working knife.
 
This is the God's honest truth guys I have a Swisschamp and I never use the blades! :eek: my one-hand Trekker get's used as a knife more often though.For the price I'd say SAK's are the best bargins out there knife wise.:D

And Olaf the steel is prob 420 or 440A (or some odd named same-type stuff)

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If I had to just carry a SAK though I'd go for the solider or farmer and their alox scales (or switch scales to G-10..that red stuff is kind of s**tty)
 
SAK's work pretty darn well, guess that's why so many knife nuts have them. In my opinion, they are very good quality. As far as trusting my life to one. Well, I don't think you'd be endangering yourself if all you had was a SAK. I also don't think the color red would be much of a factor. But if it makes you (olaf_yahoo) feel safer, they make them in camouflage, black, etc.
 
In my mind, quality and fit and finish are different things....quality has to do with features, materials, etc (to me)...under this context, it has acceptable quality and excellent fit and finish.
 
Krull said:
the steel is prob 420 or 440A (or some odd named same-type stuff)
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The topic of Victorinox's "mystery steel" comes up regularly -

Victorinox are often reluctant to disclose their steel composition - citing propietary info -
but information about their steel has been published by Victorinox themselves..........

Here's a page on the Victorinox Steelinfo over at pizzini.at - an Austrian SAK dealer -
the information is/was originally from Victorinox.

QUOTED from that page:
"For both blades we use chrome molydenum stainless steel with 0.52% carbon, 15% chromium, 0.5% molydenum, 0.45% manganese and 0.6% silicium. After a sophisticated hardening process at 1040°C and an annealing temperature of 160°C the blades achieve a hardness of RC 56.

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The woodsaw, scissors and nail files have a hardness of RC 53, the screwdriver, tin opener and awl a hardness of RC 52, and the corkscrew and springs RC 49.


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The metal saw and file, in addition to the special case hardening, are also subjected to a hard chromium plating process so that iron and steel can also be filed und cut.


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The separators have been made from aluminium alloy since 1951. This makes the knife lighter and easier to carry in one's pocket. Formerly these separating layers were made of nickel-silver.


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The rivets are made of brass and the outer casing of cellidor, made in the USA.


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The spring exerts a pressure of 12 kilograms on the large blade and 8 kilograms on the small blade. The combined 20 kilograms exert pressure on the corkscrew. With two springs and six pressure locations a total of 70 kilograms pressure is achieved. To close the blades high pressure is necessary since the ratio of the pressure points between the axis and the thumbnail recess is 1 to 20. In the case of the "SwissChamp" model with 8 springs and 24 pressure points a total of 300 kilograms (660 lb) is achieved. "

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Vincent
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I have a One Handed Trekker and it does have some movement in the blade (in the direction of blade travel -vertical?), but you have to put some pressure on it - as if you were attempting to close it - the play seems to be from the pressure that the slip joint mechanism (backspring) is holding it open and the liner type lock that keeps it from closing on you...I have heard that this motion is normal on the models that have a liner type lock in conjunction with the slipjoint mechanisms. I have never seen any side to side (lateral?) movement on any of mine. I EDC either an Explorer or a Soldier...too bad they don't offer Alox more models!

John
 
olaf_yahoo said:
every SAK I've ever seen was made with mystery metal.
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Cold Steel's Carbon V is a "mystery metal" because they have changed what steel they use for it without noting the change. Victorinox, on the other hand, uses exactly the same steel and the same heat treatment for every blade they make. You can like it or dislike it, but they provide a rare degree of consistency.

You can rely on every Victorinox knife to provide the same level of performance. Given just how many reviews of that performance exist I think you can get a pretty fair idea of what to expect.

--Bob Q
 
I EDC a Huntsman lite. Yeah, it's a little heavy, but I have big pockets. It has everything I need.

The quality is excellent on these knives.

But they don't seem like knives to me....more like utility tools that happen to have a blade.

So I also EDC a Gerber Mini-Covert. It has the look of a real knife. The steel is not the best, but I sharpen knives often while watching t.v. and I keep them up with little effort.
 
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