Do you have a “buyer’s rejoice” knife?

[Dagoth_Blur]

Why would I want to know grappling arts? I am an instructor in the Filipino Martial arts of Combat Judo and escrima. Taiwanese and Filipino art of Kuntao and now studying Penchak silat.. As well as being an instructor of the above mentioned arts other than silat for 50 years.. Bladework is also part of the FMA and silat

Huh? Because silat and most of what you mentioned does not include full contact sparring, just like every single knife based martial art therefore is mostly theoretical. And intimate knowledge of controlling a fully resisting opponent in close range is the single most important skill for close quarters combat. You fall back to your training.

How many actual knife fights have you been in where you garnered this opinion that learning grappling arts to control an opponent would be ineffective?

 

[Dagoth_Blur]

I’ve never been in a fight by any stretch of the imagination, but I assume that grappling also flies out of the window once blades are in the equation. Judo throws and BJJ submissions become extremely dangerous when the other man has a knife.

Thats just simply false. Do you think once stabbed or a knife is introduced body mechanics as well as learning to isolate a limb/control an opponent because irrelevant? It becomes more relevant than ever. Whats the alternative...just let them stab you repeatedly and die?

 

[whp]

I was employed by a federal agency at the time during my civil service days, so I was aware of the laws at the time.. I never pulled steel in public because I always had my expandable baton on my person when I was in plain clothes and off duty.. Plus situational awareness was also part of the game.. I used to carry a randall 15 in a fanny pouch when I didn't carry my personal firearm..

I was never in public service, but I remember situational awareness being important living in the city of Chicago.. Especially when I spent a year riding a train across town to work at 5:00 every morning. The smallest folder I carried was about 3.25-3.5 inches, tucked out of sight. And I never had to pull it out in public, thank goodness.

 

[junglefighter]

Huh? Because silat and most of what you mentioned does not include full contact sparring, just like every single knife based martial art therefore is mostly theoretical. And intimate knowledge of controlling a fully resisting opponent in close range is the single most important skill for close quarters combat. You fall back to your training.

How many actual knife fights have you been in where you garnered this opinion that learning grappling arts to control an opponent would be ineffective?

If you would research the silat and fma you will find that these combative systems have proven their worth in combat for several centuries before the current grappling trend came on scene.. My instructors in the Philippines were from the old school training that existed before, during and after WW2 and some of my closest friends are in the Philippine special operations command where they have traveled and fought in such areas as sulu and mindanao which still have bladed encounters on a frequent basis.. So you don't know the extent of my training and with who I have trained with over the last 50 years.. Therefore, this conversation is over as far as I am involved because it seems to me that your grappling mindset is still throwing you curve balls and you are stuck in the mindset that everything still has to go to the grappling phase to be effective.. Have a good day, because my involvement with this conversation with you is over..

 

[Dagoth_Blur]

If you would research the silat and fma you will find that these combative systems have proven their worth in combat for several centuries before the current grappling trend came on scene.. My instructors in the Philippines were from the old school training that existed before, during and after WW2 and some of my closest friends are in the Philippine special operations command where they have traveled and fought in such areas as sulu and mindanao which still have bladed encounters on a frequent basis.. So you don't know the extent of my training and with who I have trained with over the last 50 years.. Therefore, this conversation is over as far as I am involved because it seems to me that your grappling mindset is still throwing you curve balls and you are stuck in the mindset that everything still has to go to the grappling phase to be effective.. Have a good day, because my involvement with this conversation with you is over..

Ah yes the current grappling trend. Judo is from the late 1800's. Wrestling is over 15,000 years old. Sambo is from the 1920's.

Also nice strawman. Not everything has to go to the grappling phase, but the likelihood statistically is that it will and you better be prepared. You seem very ego driven in your answer. Your precious experience isnt being attacked, I am only highlighted the objective benefit of becoming a more complete fighter when dealing with weapons through grappling.

 

[Blues]

And...that's a wrap.

 

[knarfeng]

beat me to by seconds.

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