Doan Magnesium Fire Starter Review

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Today I practiced making fire, this time using a Doan magnesium fire starter. This is a piece of USGI gear consisting of rectangular bar of magnesium, to which a ferrocerrium rod is glued on one of the long sides. It also has a hole towards one end through which a beaded chain is threaded, and which can be used to secure it to your kit or to keep a striker handy.

The magnesium fire starters are waterproof and don't burn when solid. To use, you scrape the exposed long side of the bar to make a pile of magnesium shavings, which do burn. Once you've got a good pile, which takes some work, you flip the bar over and use a striker to scrape sparks off the ferrocerium rod into the pile. This will then flare up and light your secondary tinder and kindling.

A hacksaw blade snapped in half works fairly well for making the magnesium shavings and for making sparks. However, I used the reamer on my Victorinox Farmer Swiss Army Knife. It's easier to hold and works well.

While the magnesium shavings burn very hot, they don't burn for very long. Thus, it's critical that you make a big enough pile and have enough dry tinder, twigs, and kindling to keep the fire burning once the magnesium shavings burn out in short order.

My secondary tinder was wood shavings sliced off one of the firewood logs I picked up last weekend at Lowe's. The logs were my fuel, as well. They were supposed to be seasoned but still had a fair moisture content, as I discovered once I got the fire going.

I first created a pile of wood shavings then made a small pile of magnesium shavings next to and surrounded by the wood. The magnesium shavings lit after a few strikes from the ferrocerium but I was unable to get a sustained fire going.

Since my daughters were outside with my and wanted to get one with roasting some hot dogs, I switched over to a Bic lighter. However, I wasn't able to get a sustained fire going until I broke out a Coughlin's tinder wad (a wax impregnated cotton ball) and placed it among the coals left over from the burning wood shavings. That and blowing on the fire finally got it going.

Once the fire was going I saw and heard moisture bubbling out the end of the firewood, so it wasn't seasoned enough. It burned with a lot of smoke, too.

I'm not real impressed with the magnesium fire starter. It takes too long and requires too much effort to create a pile of shavings for your stage one tinder. Also, the shavings are so lightweight that the slightest bit of wind blows them around. Finally, the striker rod on the one side of the bar is thin compared to a Swedish Fire Steel, so it throws fewer sparks.

If I was stuck in the wilderness, would I take a Doan magnesium fire starter over a primitive fire starting method, such as a fire drill? You bet. It's easily pocketable, light, and does contain both a spark source and tinder in one waterproof package. However, I think there are better alternatives. For example, a ferrocerium rod (e.g., Swedish Fire Steel) and a 35mm film canister filled with cotton balls soaked in petroleum jelly take up little additional room but work much better. The PJ cotton balls burn hot AND long enough to get your secondary tinder going. Of course, one could carry the Doan fire starter and the PJ cotton balls, using the Doan's ferrocerium rod to ignite them.

I was also reminded of the utility of a large knife, machete, or axe when making woods shavings or splitting kindling from large pieces of wood. Today I relied on my Mora Swedish Army Knife, (#760MG) which is a great small fixed blade. They are inexpensive, take and retain a sharp edge, and have comfortable handles. However, they are short and light which means it takes significantly more effort to make a pile of wood shavings or split logs. If I'd been able to split more kindling the fire would have gotten going a lot more easily. This could be critical in a survival situation where you need a fire RFN, such as if you need to dry off in cold weather.

Once again, I'm glad I tried this out in my back yard, instead of out in the woods in a serious situation.
 
I picked up one of those rebranded Doans blocks the other day and haven't had the time to diddle with it to much yet. Your experience points again to the fact that after the best sparker or lighter, past the artificial or natural tender, the kindling and firewood chosen can make or break the effort.

Codger
 
Good write up. They aren't the easiest tools to use but they are pretty much bomb proof. You just have to lay a good fire and make lots of shavings. I carry a steel matchcase filled with PJ cotton and a birthday candle bundled together with the Doan tool, hacksaw blade and a few big rubber ranger bands. It works well as a never fail back-up to the universal yellow Bic. Mac

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They aren't the easiest tools to use...

I don't think it is a matter of the DOAN being "easier to use," it's all about fire construction with ANY of these devices. It really is.

...but they are pretty much bomb proof.

Yes, they are. I still have my original one which is looking pretty nasty after a little over 20 years now. I don't know how they secured the ferro rod to the mag block, if it was glue or epoxy, I sure wish I could get a tube of THAT type of adhesive!

You just have to lay a good fire and make lots of shavings.

I think some folks think these things are magical. You really have to build a good fire with any of these things. Construction, construction, construction.

I carry a steel matchcase filled with PJ cotton and a birthday candle bundled together with the Doan tool, hacksaw blade and a few big rubber ranger bands. It works well as a never fail back-up to the universal yellow Bic.

And you can get the trick-hard-to-blow-out birthday candles as well. They are VERY good in survival kits.

I carry a Mini-Bic in my small kits but I have to tell you, I would rather rely on a DOAN block or any ferro rod instead of a Bic. I KNOW for a FACT those ferro rods are going to throw a spark, it doesn't matter how good someone thinks a lighter is, it's still a very, very cheaply manufactured item with moving parts...choose carefully what your primary, secondary and tertiary sources of fire are...not talking about you, "Pict," just anyone else making decisions on what to carry.

Ultimately, the most important firestarting tool is right between your ears and if you don't know how to construct a fire properly, anything short of a blowtorch is going to cause you problems.
 
Good points Don. I plan to gather up a wide variety of methods to try on my upcoming winter trip. A variety of ignition means, tenders, accelerants etc. Surely with fourteen days to try them all, I can come to some conclusions to satisfy myself. And maybe a few folks here as well. I still need to find a killer deal on a fire piston. The firebow, a tried and true set crafted by Mewolf from bison bones, will get a workout, as well as a "field expedient" version made from local materials.

Codger
 
I've had good luck with mag block fire starters, even in driving rain. All a matter of prep and practice. The best argument I have read in their favor was (if I recall correctly) in Cody Lundin's book, and that is that the mag block can be used after cold has sapped your fingers of dexterity, due to the fact that it can be manipulared using the larger muscles of the arms. I have personally been in conditions where my hands were so cold I was unable to manipulate a Bic lighter.
 
In one of the last few "mag block" threads in here over the last year I have said about the same thing. The block itself makes a better handle than firestarting material. :)

Now, a pill bottle full of powdered or fine flake magnesium made beforehand at home and carried would be quite effective.

A lot of things are "quite effective" and a few are not looked upon with a kindly eye by the powers that be.

Codger, if you want to know a bit more for your experiments, fire me an E-mail off of my website.
 
In my area of Brazil fire lighting conditions are and either/or proposition. Either it is so easy to light a fire that a stray spark will start a forest fire -or- gasoline will burn off and everything stops smoking real quick. There is very little middle ground as we are either in dry season or rainy season. We just got over seven months with no rain at all. From December to January it barely stops raining for a day.

Most of the time here a Bic will do it just fine. It just doesn't get cold enough to worry about cold injuries as an urgent threat. In the dry season a ferro rod will light up a great many natural materials without much provocation. In rainy season you need some tinder that will burn for a good long time and all the tricks come into play, like... gasp... batonning wood.

Someone recently posted about using a square of duct tape to collect your mag shavings. I thought that was a great idea. I tried it and the tape square lit right up. I put a strip of duct tape on the side of my Doan tool. I treat my Doan tools as a ferro rod with a magnesium handle, the mag is there if you need it. Mac
 
Mag block's are very rugged,and effective but most items that will catch with a small pile of shavings can be broken down finer and lit with just a ferro rod.IMO,a piece of fat wood paired with a larger ferro rod is more affective, the shavings are easier to make,burn longer and don't blow around in a breeze like magnesium. I guess I would like the mag bars better if the ferro rod section was bigger,say .25+, and the mag was more of a back up.
 
Hey Guys..

Dave..

Good review...

I just wanted to say they they do burn when they are solid..
They actually burn like Crazy,, and VERY bright, like light up the backyard kind of bright...

However they have to be ignited with a torch,, or a VERY hot fire....
I've ignited 1/2" wide Mag rods in a fire...

Thanks

Eric
O/ST
 
WHen possible I take the most reliable firestarting tools with me. Doan included! It's proven that it's working by myself and others.

The only strange thing is that a lot of people talk about the mag shavings blowing away.......have you tried fluffed up PJBs?? They got blown away too (put a stick in it to fix it to the ground)........so that's a NON issue here.
Preparation is the "magic word" when building a fire. Nothing lights up by itself. Even with a roadflare you need to gather firewood, which is also preparation. There are no shortcuts here.
No to be negative here, but I see a lot of folks talking about details, that are valid but often WAY overrated.

CZ
 
Nice write up. I have been a big fan of the Doans since learning to use them back in Scouts. people just to need to remember to practice using it before it's needed.
If you ever watch the show Survivor, you'll see how these idiots hack at it with a machete like it's a piece of flint or something.
 
If you ever watch the show Survivor, you'll see how these idiots hack at it with a machete like it's a piece of flint or something.

Ha, another reason I'm glad that I've never seen that show.

I do have a somewhat renewed appreciation for these, though it seems most often I'd rather have a quality firesteel in my hand. When it's really hitting the fan, it is nice to have the magnesium backup. I still keep one or two around.
 
Mag blocks seem to be a polarizing subject like Tom Brown. You either love'm or hate'm.

I was a mag block fan before discovering the vaseline/CB combo. After playing with
the VCBs for a while I realized that if I was cold, wet, and tired the VCBs and a
firesteel would win over the mag block for me.

I still keep a couple stashed and if you piled all my fire stuff together it would be
comprised of mag blocks, fire steels, VCB, strike-anywhere matches, Bics, and
some road flares. And a Sparklite. My opinion is still mixed on it - it works great
with the included tinder but I haven't tried it on a VCB yet.

I don't carry flint and steel. Flint rocks are as common as ticks around here and I
usually have a suitable knife or hatchet on hand.
 
There are three components to the fire triangle: Heat, Fuel, and Oxygen. Weight this equation incorrectly - no fire. Some people have difficulty with magnesium as I believe they have an improper perspective of where it should fall in the triangle -- they lump the shavings in as fuel and the spark as heat.

But if you treat magnesium solely as your heat source (ignition) you will have better success if you respect the triangle. We tend to focus on ignition (spark from rod) so much we don't pay attention to the rest. "I got a spark and lit my fuel (magnesium), I should have a fire!"

When I use magnesium I am just as critical of my tinder bundle, if not more, than if I were to have a coal from char cloth or the bow drill when using natural materials.

My personal opinion is you should have a flint/magnesium solution with you at all times, because as previously mentioned they are bomb proof.
 
There are three components to the fire triangle: Heat, Fuel, and Oxygen. Weight this equation incorrectly - no fire. Some people have difficulty with magnesium as I believe they have an improper perspective of where it should fall in the triangle -- they lump the shavings in as fuel and the spark as heat.

But if you treat magnesium solely as your heat source (ignition) you will have better success if you respect the triangle. We tend to focus on ignition (spark from rod) so much we don't pay attention to the rest. "I got a spark and lit my fuel (magnesium), I should have a fire!"

When I use magnesium I am just as critical of my tinder bundle, if not more, than if I were to have a coal from char cloth or the bow drill when using natural materials.

My personal opinion is you should have a flint/magnesium solution with you at all times, because as previously mentioned they are bomb proof.

Right on QB --

Spark is easy, you can get one from many different places, it is the tinder bundle and initial fire lay that make or break the fire making process. Mag Bars, firesteels, matches, lighters, they all fail without proper tinder and kindling when the conditions are not perfect.
 
I tried one of those years ago, More of a pain than it was worth. A Bic lighter is quicker and more dependable. Would I carry it as a backup? No I would carry an extra Bic.
 
About the only thing that makes up for a poor fire lay is a pint of gasoline. I like the mag block in that if natural spark lightable tinder is hard to come by or damp then the magnesium is there to give it a heat boost and get things going. I normally don't bother much with the magnesium as long as I have natural tinder or treated cotton. In dry season here there is ample stuff that will light with a few sparks off a rod. In rainy season I have taken 20 minutes to light a fire cooking it over a candle. Know your conditions, practice in the worst of it, and carry what you need. Mac

ETA - Johnny Reb - I think most of us carry a Bic as a go-to lighter. I usually have a pair of them. The trouble is that they are prone to fail in extreme cold, high wind and don't work right away when soaked in water and those are the conditions where you need fire the most. The Doan tool, or ferro rod, and a prepared tinder like PJ treated cotton are there for just such conditions.
 
PJ cotton balls flint are still 2 items and that means one or the other can get lost or .....

The beauty of the magblock is its guranteed fire in one unit. throw it in your kit and forget about it.

It is however not idiot proof.

Skam
 
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