Does anyone know the REAL time Jerry Posted?

Irezumi said:
The time was out on the home forum...I was refreshing both and saw it on BF before the home forum.
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Same here; I agree the home forum time was off. The official "GO" time should be 9:55pm as Amy-0 already indicated.

Greg
 
BusseCollector said:
How :confused: I'm trying to figure it out as well - please share.

Greg
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I'm using the web interface.

Go to: Sent Mail

Select the message you want.

Now on the right hand side of the bar at the top of the message there is a little arrow, click on it and a drop down menu apears.

Now click on: Show origional

A plain text copy will pop up with the date and time in the header.
 
Worked Great THANKS! I missed the drop down both times I looked.

My gmail time was 21:56:02 :cool:

Greg

wash said:
I'm using the web interface.

Go to: Sent Mail

Select the message you want.

Now on the right hand side of the bar at the top of the message there is a little arrow, click on it and a drop down menu apears.

Now click on: Show origional

A plain text copy will pop up with the date and time in the header.
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My backup shot...
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:56:31 -0400

What do I win?
Maxed out credit card?:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
my Google time was:

Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:55:57 -0700


wash said:
I just figured out how to see the seconds in gmail.

Mine was sent at 9:56:06 Google time.

I have a reasonably fast connection and I'm only a few miles from Google Hq, so my emails go fast.
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You guys have to remember that this is all just mental masturbation. The only thing that matters is the time stamp of the messages as they arrive in Jerry's Inbox. If you use an ISP with a big fat pipe and low overhead, you probably made it there quickly. On the other hand, if you are squeezing through a tiny pipe or using a wireless connection, you might end up sucking hind teat. Only the ether knows....

Rick
 
Guyon said:
These guys are currently rechecking my time on an atomic clock...

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Looks like Old Physics when he was doing his post-grad work.
 
rbmcmjr said:
You guys have to remember that this is all just mental masturbation. The only thing that matters is the time stamp of the messages as they arrive in Jerry's Inbox. If you use an ISP with a big fat pipe and low overhead, you probably made it there quickly. On the other hand, if you are squeezing through a tiny pipe or using a wireless connection, you might end up sucking hind teat. Only the ether knows....

Rick
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Hey Rick,

Let me start by saying I total agree with your main point - The ONLY timestamp that matters is the one in Amy's Inbox.

However with webmail (gmail, yahoo, etc) whether used through their web interface or through POP/IMAP the outbound email headers are officially timestamped once they leave the hosts outbound server (which is physically located in their datacenters). I'm sure you'll agree that Google's WAN pipes are not going to bottleneck this process.

Greg
 
However with webmail (gmail, yahoo, etc) whether used through their web interface or through POP/IMAP the outbound email headers are officially timestamped once they leave the hosts outbound server (which is physically located in their datacenters). I'm sure you'll agree that Google's WAN pipes are not going to bottleneck this process.
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Greg,

You are correct in the generic sense. But allow me to offer a specific example: My corporate Internet is delivered via a complicated series of transfers and routing. Something from my machine travels from Idaho Falls to Sunnyvale, then to Pittsburgh, and then out into the generic public internet. Until it reaches Pittsburgh, it is locked into our corporate VPN, with hardware encryption and other time lag inducing goodies in the way.
 
rbmcmjr said:
Greg,

You are correct in the generic sense. But allow me to offer a specific example: My corporate Internet is delivered via a complicated series of transfers and routing. Something from my machine travels from Idaho Falls to Sunnyvale, then to Pittsburgh, and then out into the generic public internet. Until it reaches Pittsburgh, it is locked into our corporate VPN, with hardware encryption and other time lag inducing goodies in the way.
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Rick again I totally agree with you regarding your corporate network; but in this instance the question was whether or not the timestamp on the outbound message was relevent. So let me explain the actually sequence of events.

User A -> sends email through web over dial-up -> message is sent to the Google host email server where it is processed and forward -> outbound message header is then timestamped -> email enters the abyss of the internet -> then hits Busse Combats network -> then their email server and get's time stamped as arrived

User B -> sends email through pop/imap client on high-speed connection -> message is sent to the Google host email server where it is processed and forward -> outbound message header is then timestamped -> email enters the abyss of the internet -> then hits Busse Combats network -> then their email server and get's time stamped as arrived

As you can see once the message is timestamped by the outbound server the origin of the email and the throughput of the original senders server is no longer relevent.

But as you noted in the original post what happens from there is still a crap shoot, but at least its a level playing field for all google users regardless of their home connection speeds.

By the way I've really enjoyed our exchange, its not often I get to use my work experience on the knife forum ;)

Greg
 
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