does the sheath really matter when buying

Hey Guys...

Thats why there are guys like me and Mike Sastre...

We can build you pretty much what you want in a True carry system,,something that can be used several different ways, a true multicarry sheath if you will..
We know how much you guys like to play with things..
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BTW if I wasn't a sheathmaker myself,, Sastre would be my sheathmaker..

Owen...
Your sheath is on a plane at this very minute.It went overnight,,so keep an eye out for low flying planes..
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Thanks

ttyle

Eric..

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Eric,
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It's like getting a new knife when those sheaths come in!

If the plane crashes and only the sheath survives, I'll be sure to email Cliff about it..hehe! Sorry Cliff, it was there, and I had to take it
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Man, I'm funny (to me, anyway).

Sorry to get OT.
 
Good topic.
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Mike Snody just sent us some new knives with awesome sheaths-system.

Teaming up with JSP Blade Rigger, these knives feature a shoulder rig, the "Associate Harness". Also when the webbing is removed a static cord can be used for a simple small of back carry.

Demonstrating the harness is our very own BFC forum member, ex-devil dog, knife-nut, and Triple Aught Staffer, "E_WOK".

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"Associate Harness"

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"At the Ready"

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Fully secure and comfortable 3 point clip/webbing construction

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Stripped down to use with static cord for IWB small of back carry

A good knife teamed up with an equally good sheath makes for a great "blade system".
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The sheath is important to me because I don't intend to carry my knife around in my mouth.

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I buy knives for the knife. The sheath is secondary. There are many good sheathmakers out there who can provide an aftermarket sheath to almost any design, and I don't mind paying extra to get a sheath I really like.

Brandon
 
Not to mention every once in a while you might meet a maker who makes a fantastic knife and in their own words a very lousy sheath
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. (It is my opinion that makers who are not into sheaths should just leave it alone and team up with a sheath maker, rather than put a nice knife out with a sheath they are not happy with.)

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[This message has been edited by Gus Kalanzis (edited 04-19-2001).]
 
I have gotten so that I usually tell a maker to ship me the knife without a sheath unless I know that he makes a good one.

I do occasionially get a discount for this. Some makers are positively releaved not to have to make a sheath.

I am so impressed with the work of the well known sheath makers that I send my good knives straight to them for a sheath of a quality and craftsmanship that matches the knife.
 
Generally is hard to find some one who wants to do a really nice job on BOTH. Knife makers make knives.
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Some makers are exceptional when it comes to doing sheaths <-- those are a rare breed IMHO.

If a makers supplies a nice sheath thats a bonus. Typically it doesn't stop me from buying the knife. I like swinger sheaths on clip hook - hardly any one does those any more. Nothing beats a nice leather sheath.
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I've taught myself to make my own thermoform sheaths so I can save $ for knives. Much thanks to Mike Sastre and Eric/Normark for their input.
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Yes it does matter. Like some has posted here if the sheath is bad then I want the option to buy the knife without it at a reduced price.

I only have two fixed blades. A Gerber LMF, great sheath so far. The other one is a Cold steel mini Outdoorsman, great sheath also. The cordura sheath for my Gerber guardian was bad. Couldn´t hold the blade secure and fell to pieces after about a year. Too bad because the basic idea was good.

Somethin really bad is when a sheath doesn´t fit, like Benchmades pouch for the BM42. That is really bad QC. Well I probably will invest in an aftermarket. Many good ones out there for this knife.

/Colinz
 
Wow..two widely seperated opinions. I mostly use my knives and am not much swayed by decoration.

I vote again for the sheath, but I agree with someone above...it is rare to see both.
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Steve-O
 
Lots of good material in this thread. Here's my $0.02 as a buyer and user...

1. Where an older collectable is concerned, it seems the original sheath is almost as important a part of the value of the package as the knife.

2. Where low to medium end factory knives go, the sheath is very important. People who buy in this area are not likely to want to pay still more for a custom made high quality sheath. If you get a good sheath in this price area, so much the better (and they are available), but mediocre seems to be the name of the game. Consider that if these knives were to be offered at a reduced price without a sheath, the price wouldn't go down very much because the sheath's aren't that expensive to begin with.

3. A well built sheath on a custom using knife (these seem to be in the $100-$300 range for fixed blades in the 3-6" range I'm familiar with) is a great plus too (and you tend to see nicer sheaths here more often), but in this price range, ironically, a good "original sheath" is less important. People who buy knives at this price point are willing to put out another $25-$75 for a sheath, especially one tailored to their intended deployment. A knife offered here for less without a sheath as a standard option might make sense.

4. Collectables, more expensive customs in the $350 or $500 and up range. Sheath becomes important again for the same reason it is important to #1. Sure buyers here could afford a custom sheath, but then it would end up being a different sheath for every example of the knife and the total package would not have a stable value from instance to instance.


[This message has been edited by matthew rapaport (edited 04-20-2001).]
 
Absolutely, the sheath counts. I have Normark's sheath for my F1: it matches the knife exactly -- elegant simplicity, total utility. For some knives (stag, carbon steel, brass) I prefer leather and usually make my own. But for sheer practicality (not to mention, workmanship, design, attention to detail and great service) go with Normark. 'Nuff said.
 
I have been working as a master leathercrafter for over 50 years. In that time I have made thousands of knife sheaths for custom Knife Makers in this country and Canada. One of the major reasons for my being involved in this business is that Custom Knifemakers tell me that my sheaths help sell their knives, and I believe them!!! Must confess that I have a healthy ego---

I am a moderator on knifeforums.com with the forum on sheathmaking and leathercraft 101. My co-moderator is Greg Gutcher, jr. the owner of Sullivan`s Holster Shop in Tampa, Florida. He is the man that makes the sheaths for the Randall Knifes of Orlando, Fl. Visit us if you can find time-----Sandy Morrissey
 
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