Dogbane Cordage?????

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Y'all probably remember on one of my night hikes I spied this dogbane:
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Then on a later snowy hike I harvested some:
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Well I read up and finally decided to try making some cordage last night.

The directions were a little vague. I'll try to give tips I figured out from trial and error and maybe somebody who really knows about this stuff could give ME some tips

First you peel the outer bark off and most of the fiber comes off with it.
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In my experience you want to try to go slow and pull as long of a bark strip off as you can to start off. You can sort of twist in shorter sections along the way.

So this is a crappy pic but this is the outside of the strip. You have to scrape the red bark off which is thin to get the fiber only. I used my thumbnail. Caution scrape easy cause although the fibers are really strong they are so thin at this point you can break them in the scraping process.
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You can see even after you peel it off there are still fibers on the stem. I found you could pull these off and twist them together and incorporate them into the strand.
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Here's what the stuff looks like after you peel the outer bark off before you twist it onto the strand. You can see you get a lot more long fiber than if you just pull the individual fibers off the stalk
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So once you've pulled off some long strips, stripped the outer bark and twisted them together and knotted it at one end you start twisting more strips onto the cord. Thing you want to do is start at the one end and work your way down so it is fairly even diameter. Also TWIST IN THE SAME DIRECTIN always. If you mess up it makes it looks crappy. Also twist close together.
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Here's the cord.
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Here's it with a thicker one I made last night and used on my knife. I didn't have the hang of getting the outer bark off as well on this one but it is super strong. I put a little wax on my fingers when I did the final twist on this one so the fibers would lay down better. Today's neater thinner cord is there beside it.
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Conclusion: Not that hard. I was amazed how tough a cord this made when you are layering difft peices in along as you go:thumbup:
 
Excellent pictures and adds to the list of local plants around here I can keep me eye out for. Thanks!
 
Whoa. Thats sweet HD. I've never made any chord. Dang it. The only plant I know I'd recognize to get it from is willow. Chordage, and also plant recognition is a weak point in my skillset.
 
Are those bean pods on the dogbane, if so that would help me identify it.



Well it's in the milkweed family so it's not exactly a bean but yeah.

The stuff I read said to harvest it after it has died, which I did.

Nettle is supposed to be another you can use. When some comes up this spring maybe I'll try that and report back:thumbup:
 
HD,

Great post and explanation of cordage making 101. Dogbane is a great natural fiber and it ranks up there in my favorites for cordage making. Also on my list are milkweed, stinging nettle and spruce root. Looks like your Koster is getting used well. Keep up the great work buddy!

Kev
 
HD,

Great post and explanation of cordage making 101. Dogbane is a great natural fiber and it ranks up there in my favorites for cordage making. Also on my list are milkweed, stinging nettle and spruce root. Looks like your Koster is getting used well. Keep up the great work buddy!

Kev


Hey! Thanks! Glad you approve. First time I ever tried anything like that so good to hear from somebody else with actual experience:thumbup:
 
HD,

With that initial fiber, you can now reverse wrap it to make even stronger cordage. On a primitive winter camping trip in February 2006, dogban cordage was used for the bow drill and it held up really well. I'd be interested in seeing just how much weight your cordage can hold. Want to do an informal test? I bet it would be a significant amount.
 
HD,

With that initial fiber, you can now reverse wrap it to make even stronger cordage. On a primitive winter camping trip in February 2006, dogban cordage was used for the bow drill and it held up really well. I'd be interested in seeing just how much weight your cordage can hold. Want to do an informal test? I bet it would be a significant amount.

Reverse wrap? You mean coming from the opposite end wrapping in the other direction? Hey cool! Great idea.

Both peices I made are pretty short but if I make a longer peice yeah I want to test the strength. All I did was pull as hard as I could on each end and then snap it by letting it get loose and then pulling it tight as hard and fast as I could.

So would wetting it or anyhing cause the fibers to tighten?
 
After trying to figure out a way to explain how to reverse wrap without actually showing it, I decided to let my buddy Art Haines do it courtesy of his site.

http://www.arthurhaines.com/reverse-wrap-cord.htm

Art is a good guy and a blade enthusiast. Great primitive instructor and a really funny guy.

I hope this helps!
 
Well it's in the milkweed family so it's not exactly a bean but yeah.

The stuff I read said to harvest it after it has died, which I did.

Nettle is supposed to be another you can use. When some comes up this spring maybe I'll try that and report back:thumbup:

Dogbane, like Milkweed is part of dogbane family (Apocynaceae). Dogbane however is considered to be poisonous in its green state. The sap can cause skin problems too. Just passing along as an FYI.

I was taught what you read regarding harvesting the dead stems. Some people soak them, but I just break apart the woody stem dry and it seems to work just fine. VERY strong cordage - one of the few natural that can handle the bow drill and bow.
 
So has anybody tried to make a little pile of the fibers all cleaned off and sparked it for tinder? Seems like it would catch.

QB, yeah I knew about the toxic nature from my research into it, but thanks for mentioning:thumbup:

I bet you could sew with the fibers in a thin strand huh?
 
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