dogfood and catfood for survival

Well I would rather eat cat or dog food any day over bugs,worms,Scorpions and lizards or other things that crawl on the ground. I ate a milk bone once just for the hell of it. It sorta tastes like cardboard but was not the worst thing I have ever ate. In fact some dog food looks better then some people food I have ate
before and more then likely tastes better. :eek:
 
There's a clever response to that, but we're not in W&C.:D

That's okay, kiahs. :D

A sick sense of humor is a prerequisite for being a member of W&SS...hell, many of the subjects you have to deal with in survival involve basic bodily functions. So, we might as well couch the information in sick bathroom humor...makes it easier for the queasy to take.
 
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tastes great:D
 
Not that long ago there was a big pet food scare, people's pets were getting very sick and some were dying. I decided at the time to start making dog food for my boy from human food. I researched it a bit and came up with some well balanced recipes, mostly chicken, rice and various vegetables like collard greens and brussels sprouts. It was a lot of work between the shopping and the preparation and the packaging and freezing, used up a tremendous amount of freezer space, and looked like it was going to cost me about $200 a month :eek: After about 2 weeks he just refused to eat it anymore at which point the problems in the food supply had cleared up. I ended up eating the rest of the "dog food" :D
 
Why not just eat the Cat or Dog??

Dog makes a fine meal, and I maintain that cat (yes, household feline) is one of my favorite meats!
 
Dog makes a fine meal

I'll bet they do. I've heard that 36,000 stray dogs are put to sleep every year in the New York metro area. Wonder what happens to all that meat.

On the other hand, I pray I never get hungry enough to even consider eating my best friend.
 
This thread is funny. All jokes aside though, the details are fuzzy but I seem to remember a story about a fellow who had like committed a crime or something and then went to live in the middle of nowhere surviving at least partially on dog food. If I remember right he had signed his business over to his wife and she rased the money for his defense so when he came in from the bush the trial found him not guilty. The dog food part being what I remember most about the story. Maybe some of you super web searchers can find the story.
 
rabits have no fat...
it's called protien poisoning.

dog biscuts... idk if you could survive eating them, but they don't taste that bad.
:D

Rabbits have fat. If you eat nothing but protein, you can shift your nitrogen balance way over and end up ketotic, but it isn't easy to do and it has nothing to do with fat content.
 
This is called "rabbit starvation". It's not due to lack of vitamins, but lack of fat. Rabbits are extremely lean. This is easily remedied by eating the internal organs and eyeballs, which have plenty of fat.

I recall a study years ago, where two researchers lived entirely on potatoes for (I think) a year, with no ill effects.

That makes a lot of sense, what with all the fat in potatoes.
 
so i'd say if u get stuck in some pet store's basement and its armageddon outside with dangerous fallout and what not

and if ur only choise is to eat dog or catfood to survive

its better to eat the dogfood then

as it is a lil bit more directed at omnivores instead of carnivores

..and now its time for breakfast :p
 
I remember my dad telling me years ago that the reason that pet food companies didn't put contraceptives in their products to curb rampant "accidental" breeding was that there were some poor or old people that bought pet food because it was the only food they could afford. :barf:

-- FLIX


so that's why we have so many old folks running around!
 
Rabbits have fat. If you eat nothing but protein, you can shift your nitrogen balance way over and end up ketotic, but it isn't easy to do and it has nothing to do with fat content.

Yep - this is essentially pushing your body into symptoms very much similar to advanced diabetes. Under advanced diabetes, your body stops producing insulin which is the hormone that signals the muscle and fat cells of your body and the hypothalmus of your brain that regulates the feeding centre to detect and use glucose that is circulating in the blood.

So the diabetic has lots of sugar in the blood, but the brain doesn't see it and interprets this as the body being in a fasting or starvation state. It then upregulates glucagon which stimulates the breakdown of fat to release even more sugar in the blood as well as the breakdown of protein to release ketone bodies. The brain can only use glucose or ketones bodies for a fuel. Since the brain doesn't recognize the presence of sugar, it just keeps causing the body to breakdown its own protein to produce ketone bodies. This causes a wasting syndrome or weight loss, all while the patient remains constantly hungry and over-eating.

The build-up of ketone bodies contributes to acidosis of the blood and can lead to symptoms such as blindness, kidney failure and under severe blood acidosis coma. So, the rabbit diet can contribute to blood acidosis if you eat only the protein portions of it and do not include fats or carbohydrates. As indicated by CaptInsano above, you need to effectively first deplete your own fat reserves before the rabbit diet will contribute to this condition. Even small amounts of fat and carbohydrates will offset the blood acidosis effect. While it was mentioned earlier that fats are what is lacking in the rabbit diet, the symptoms can also be offset by consuming carbohydrates.

For example, the major storage of carbohydrates in our (and most vertebrates) bodies is in the form of glycogen that is stored primarily in the liver. By eating the liver of the rabbit you will effectively obtain a good shot of carbohydrates that will offset the ketosis symptoms. As already indicated the eyes and underlining of the skin (facia) can hold good amounts of fat. Eating some of the mesentary, the membrane that holds the organs in place can also provide some fats. Fats can also be found lining many of the organs, particularly around the intestines.

One other little tidbit, rabbits undergo what is called coprophagia - they eat their own feces. They are designed to do this and produce two types of feces, one is a soft dark mucous covered pellet that they re-consume; the other is a dried out, harder pellet that isn't consumed. Since these herbivores do not contain multiple stomachs like cows to optimize digestion of cellulose, their symbiont microflora is seeded in the lower intestines. The beneficial bacterial they house in the lower intestines breaksdown cellulose into sugars and fatty acids but can't be effectively absorbed here. The first set of pellets (the soft mucous covered ones) is thus re-consumed so the rabbit can get the benefit of all the nutrients released by the bacteria symbionts. So the whole reason for iterating that last paragraph was to suggest also eating the stomach contents of the rabbit.
 
I'll bet they do. I've heard that 36,000 stray dogs are put to sleep every year in the New York metro area. Wonder what happens to all that meat.

The carcasses were sold to rendering plants, where the fat was boiled out and sold to the cosmetics industry and ladies are smearing it on their faces in makeup.

Seriously
 
That makes a lot of sense, what with all the fat in potatoes.

Those were meant as two separate statements. Hence the spacing between them. Here, I'll edit for you.
 
man, they put some nasty stuff in most dog foods.

www.dogfoodanalysis.com

Scary. You could be eating ground up pets. Roadkill. Then there are the chemical preservatives and additives they add.

Scary.
 
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