Dont be cheap like me or Ouch!

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I've been through this before with salvage belts.I bought these from a knifemakers family.The guy had passed away a year or so before.They looked fine ,but i guess are old.Ill probably still use them,i've got a nice size stack.And yea,im too cheap to toss them.Those 36 grits will rip you pretty good.Good thing i had the guard down on the old Square wheel!
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Be careful. First time I tried one of the 3-M gator belts was on a Grizzly (which runs twice the speed of light).

I don't remember what happened "per-zactly", but the next thing I know, I touched that gator with a knuckle, and it took it to (and just past) the bone.

Machinery will bite you when you least expect it.

Robert
 
It's definitely one of them... although, they all have their perils (gloves with anything that spins = BAD) i couldn't agree more. the buffer just seems so sweet and fluffy until it rips whatever you were playing with out of your hand unexpectedly. mine's a real asshole.
 
rustyrazor said:
...(gloves with anything that spins = BAD) i couldn't agree more.
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I don't agree with blanket statemnts like this... there are many variables to consider.
I wear dexterous mechanic's gloves while grinding. Many industrial settings include gloves in their safety requirements. It just depends on the specifics of the machine and operation. I do not use a work rest. My gloves have saved my skin many times over.
 
Rick Marchand said:
I don't agree with blanket statemnts like this... there are many variables to consider.
I wear dexterous mechanic's gloves while grinding. Many industrial settings include gloves in their safety requirements. It just depends on the specifics of the machine and operation. I do not use a work rest. My gloves have saved my skin many times over.
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I like to wear the tight fitting mechanics gloves also.Nothing much to snag or grab on them.
 
Rick Marchand said:
I don't agree with blanket statemnts like this... there are many variables to consider.
I wear dexterous mechanic's gloves while grinding. Many industrial settings include gloves in their safety requirements. It just depends on the specifics of the machine and operation. I do not use a work rest. My gloves have saved my skin many times over.
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Industrial safety requirements have very little to do with worker safety, and very much to do with money.

It costs less to pay the 1 guy in 1000 who loses a finger or hand than it does to pay the other 999 for cuts and abrasions.

Doesn't mean it's safe, they are just playing the odds.
 
I was just speaking from my own personal experience... i've scraped my fingers more times than i care to remember, but that's just part of the game (and chicks dig scars right?) but i've also seen gloves get caught in drill presses and belt grinders, and a lathe once and i'll take the scrapes and cuts every time over the damage one mistake like that can cause. even a 1/2 Hp drill press can take a while to slow down with your finger. but to each their own.
 
Fellhoelter said:
Industrial safety requirements have very little to do with worker safety, and very much to do with money.

It costs less to pay the 1 guy in 1000 who loses a finger or hand than it does to pay the other 999 for cuts and abrasions.

Doesn't mean it's safe, they are just playing the odds.
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It's sad, but that makes reasonable sense.
 
Fellhoelter said:
Industrial safety requirements have very little to do with worker safety, and very much to do with money.

It costs less to pay the 1 guy in 1000 who loses a finger or hand than it does to pay the other 999 for cuts and abrasions.

Doesn't mean it's safe, they are just playing the odds.
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watercrawl said:
It's sad, but that makes reasonable sense.
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IMO, that doesn't pan out very well... Are you sure you didn't just make that up, Brian? :p

Now, had you told me the opposite, in that many industry guidelines disallow gloves because it is cheaper to pay for cuts and abrasions than a lost limb... I may have not even thought twice.

I would like to requote a few lines from my first post...
... there are many variables to consider... It just depends on the specifics of the machine and operation.
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Yes sir, unfortunately, I am sure.

One of my hats at two facilities I worked at was safety officer.

I quit the last one after they pulled out the cost benefit analysis spreadsheets.

At that particular facility, they figured a finger was worth $22k, a thumb $36k, a whole hand only $120k.

Each cut or abrasion requiring a visit to the Dr. was around $5k.

So, if you save 24 people from getting cut, it makes "good business sense" to sacrifice the one guys hand, because you are money ahead.

Sick, isn't it?

See why I said "F you guys, I quit."?
 
Well, then I guess I am forced to believe that you believe it's true. :) What did you do about it after you quit?
 
I do indeed believe it.

But, I just present the info to other folks. We're grown men, we make our own decisions.
I just want folks to make an informed decision.

And to answer your question, I went and became a guide afterwards for 5 years.
Whitewater rafting, rock climbing, mountain biking, and I ran a ropes course.

All very safe....
 
I work as supervision in refineries and have a good friend who is a safety guy. There is a lot of bottom line and "managing" the injury. Safety records are a big deal and if your company doesn't have a good one you may not be able to bid work and may even lose a bit to some one with a better record despite you having the lower bid. Its drilled into us constantly. You look at a couple stitches and go 5K what, but in long run its big money.

A scratch or a nick is a first aid and doesn't count against you too bad.

A doctor visit where there are stitches or any meds is a recordable and is avoided if at all possible.

An incident where time is missed from work other than the Dr visit is a time lost and will be avoided if at all possible. I have seen guys on crutches setting in an office doing nothing because it saves a time lost accident. Standard joke is they would put an ICU in plant if they could avoid time lost accidents,

I think if they could put in a cemetery even the dead guys would still be on the job.

I once had a safety guy who was pretty much of a prick. One day I got a piece of metal in my eye and he did his thing and removed it. Next day it was still bugging me and they could see something. Had to go to a doc and have the rest of it removed. He was all mine after that because he never reported the first part to the plant and he was begging for me to help him match up his story.
 
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