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iMAC!!

Never had a mac before, and wonder what peoples thoughts are on them. I hear that they are user friendly, but what are the draw backs?

Right now I own a HP dv1000 pavilion notebook. Should I sell the iMAC for some xtra knife money, or keep it? I plan on learning cinematography and maybe this is the right tool to use for editing.

I will not get rid of the notebook, it is too convenient.

So what do you guys recommend?
 
Congrats!

is it new?

Macs are great for graphics and editing work.

iMac isn't as good as a decked out G5, but is far superior to the laptop for graphics and editing.
 
iMac's work well as wheel chocks. :thumbup:
 
If you're getting into editing and video work, Macs are very widely used in that regard. Keep it and learn how to use it. Experience owning a computer without viruses, spyware, or a Microsoft operating system. The iMac isn't very expandable and they're a pain to service compared to a desktop, but if it works you're all set. Main Mac general downsides are lower software availability and fewer "hands on" software options, but that's changing. Right now they're switching from PPC to x86 based systems so the greater market will be a little weird until it's all sorted out.

On the other hand, if you have no interest in the Macintosh platform, you can buy a lot of knives for what you could sell it for.
 
Unless its something you really want, sell it. Remember, you have to pay income taxes on the average retail value of this computer...

Mark
 
Macs are good and easy. FCP is cool and so is Xpress DV. Stuff just works.

I have had one for 12 years.
 
I'm sure that 6% (give or take; based on a rough estimate of Mac users) of those reading this will think you've received a superior computer. There's a lot of opinions on this and sometimes this discussion comes to the shedding of blood. ;) I take a less serious view. Let others lose their lives to hate, anger, discrimination, and rock throwing.

I've used both platforms extensively, but would not consider myself a power user. I'm certainly better than most (that's not saying much) and am the go-to person for resolving computer issues before going to the IT professionals (the "geeks"). In my opinion, Mac gets a bum rap by PC users. It performs well and is as easy to use as a PC. It didn't take me very long to adjust to not only the Mac's idiosyncrasies, but to be able to work both platforms side-by-side without being frustrated with their functional differences.

For most computer users, either computer should serve their needs. The applications do the same things. They both go basically the same speeds. They both offer the same storage capacity. [This list goes on.]

Are Macs "easier" than PCs? I don't think so. For example (in addition to personal experience), Macs had been the standard computer for schools because they were perceived as easier (maybe they were "way back when"). All the local school districts around where I live have converted to PC usage for both teachers and students as the standard. The reasons? Ease of use and "realistic" preparation of students to what they will be using out in the real world when they graduate from school. My wife is a 21 year veteran school teacher and these are the reasons given her when her school district made the change to PCs six or seven years ago.

Some (not many) will emphatically argue that Macs are THE MACHINE for anything related to art development (such as desktop publishing, video editing, etc.). From my experience, I've had no problems whatsoever in running these applications from a PC. I believe this to be an old argument from the "dinosaur" era of computers that still gets healthy/unhealthy banter. If there truly is a Mac benefit in these areas, my guess is that it is so slight, only upper-end professionals would be able to tell the difference and be able to quantify their position from education and experience. I did professional desktop publishing for many years (not the top-end stuff) and the PC served me for 100% of everything I needed to do.

Macs are susceptible to viruses; just not IBM viruses. Again, going back to "percentages," those "evil doers" who write viruses write them for the biggest target (that would be PCs).

More software is written for the PC, again due to the market share, but most people wouldn't be effected by this because what most people want/need in applications are available for the Mac.

With all this being said, I'm a PC guy...period. In addition to enjoying using them, I have also branched into modifying/upgrading and building PCs from the ground up. But on the other hand, broadening one's knowledge and experience is always a good thing, thus my 7 years' experience with a Mac was both valuable and beneficial...it's made me a better person and will open more doors in life. If things were different, could I happily live with a Mac (if no choice was given)...absolutely! For me, it isn't that big of a deal...just my preference. But my preference is shared with an overwhelming share of computer users.

Ultimately, more power to anyone who choses to use whatever brand of computer they have chosen. They will be better because of it.

Personally, I'd either sell the iMac and use the money to upgrade aspects of my PC or maybe keep it to learn how to network a Mac to a PC network and other experimentation purposes.
 
I would love to have an iMac. Powerbook would be better, of course...but the lil' iMac's are that cat's meow. Nice computers and very handy.

What does "getting into video" mean? messing around with a DV camera? Or editing/compiling hours of video for yourself and others?

If the former, stick with the iMac and notebook. If the latter, sell the iMac and get a Powerbook.



Either way - Congrats!

I hate you now....:D :p
 
I am and always will be a Mac user!! That is awesome that you won an iMac! Very, very cool!!
 
Thanks so much for the opinions, they help and mean a lot, and just so you guys know, I won it on a radio show out here in L.A. called Kevin and Bean. They are streamlined on the web now and pretty funny/smart D.J.s, if interested it's KROQ.com. The iMAC is supposed to be top of the line, I was told twice (by the same person) that it was worth 6-7 thousand dollars. I highly doubt that is true since I looked at the site and I saw 1699.00$, prob. some misinformed intern.

Ron, that was quite informative and I will consider your input greatly. Thank you. Either was it will be hard to sell or keep. Money, or the promise of a shiny new electronic device and all the joys it beholds, each hard to turn down.

Dose anyone else love the smell of fresh electronics? Make no mistake, there is a smell, and it's as good as any drug.
 
lol.

Welcome to the Mac Club. Watch yourself. If you eat or drink anything while you're here, you might not ever want to leave again.

I'm going to be getting my parents a new machine in the near future and it's going to be an iMac. I'm a Unix guy from way back, so if a machine doesn't have a decent command line interface, I don't like it. Windows only offers DOS, which I stumble along with but never really got to know. MacOS X, of course, is built on top of BSD, so if you peel away the UI what you have is a full Unix environment. This is particularly interesting to me where my parents are concerned because I want to be able to remotely log into the machine to maintain it (we live in different states).

Anyway, I've never found anything that I want to do computing-wise that I can do only with a PC. I'm sure you'll find the Mac to be a good platform for you if you're willing to learn something new. Note that the new iMacs are built on top of an intel processor, so if you really want to you can dual-boot the thing between MacOS X and Windows.
 
Stephan said:
I was told twice (by the same person) that it was worth 6-7 thousand dollars. I highly doubt that is true since I looked at the site and I saw 1699.00$, prob. some misinformed intern.

Sell it to him for $3000 ;) Hey, "half price":D

I used Macs extensively during school for Graphics and design, in parallel with the PC. I never noticed any real difference, except the Macs had better Screens. Performance was identical, and the Mac interface has drifted towards a similar type of interface as windows. When it came time to buy my own computer, I was faced with the option of spending maybe $3000 for a Mac, and $1500 for a top of the line Dell with an Epson Printer and an Epson Scanner. Naturally I made the wise choice. Knowing what I do now, I would build my own computer for less, but Then it was a good deal. I am typing on the original keyboard on the very same computer 3-4 years later, and it has never once crashed. Reliable like an old model T. I can upgrade at will, using parts from numerous companies.

The thing about Mac I don't like (aside from the stereotypical granola munching dweebs who were the guys raving about their Macs in school) is the lack of aftermarket stuff. You can build a PC from parts from a couple dozen different companies, or you can buy. . . A Mac from Mac. Maybe things have changed in the last few years, but I have not heard of it, and I highly doubt it. I really don't like any Mac products enough to buy one. They are fine and dandy, and they make an effort to be trendy and hip (another thing I despise) but they try to sell their stuff for far more than their competitors charge for products that perform as well or better. Take for instance the MP3 players vs iPod- You can get any number of MP3 Players that perform the same as iPod, but store more songs, for less money and without using that iTunes crap. I also hate the way they put "i" in front of the name of every product.

Bottom line- Mac is good, but overpriced- Marketed to the Hipster "metrosexual" generation. So if you like to buy designer clothing, have $10 of "product" in your hair, and drive a VW while listening to Moby- buy a mac.

If you are budget conscious and looking for the best value- Buy a PC or build your own.

If you win a Mac, use it or sell it for a profit.

If I won a iMac, I would sell it for top dollar and buy a DDR Gunhammer, a Pistol, and some top shelf Booze.:thumbup:
 
Rat you S.O.B.! No fair!! You had to bring up the GUNHAMMER . . .that's almost a nail in the coffin for the iMac! lol

Thanks for the advice.

The more I think about it, the more the signs points to selling it. Number one reason is that I own a P.C. already and I know I will not sell it. Sounds like there are both good arguements for both which puts the advantage towards staying with the pc since I am already familiar with it and would have to learn the Mac. I have heard over and over that it is more user friendly, yet it seems here that the difference is minuet.

But damn this thing is one sexy beast, and the more it sits there looking at me begging fo me to open her, the more my fingers creep towards the box. For a desktop design, you couldn't ask for more. The Screen and cpu is all located in the same place, which cuts down on wires and opens up more space on your desk. Hmmmmm . . .want to touch . . want to activate . .want to surf for por- . . .movie reviews . . .must remain strong!

Okay

Mall Ninja-Cheap knives, believes they are cool and deadly with no knowledge or skill to back them.

Gear Whore-Want everything from garter belts to night ops night vision goggles.

So what do you call someone who can't resist electronics, gadgets, or anything thats has a shiny light and goes boop . . . beep . . . peep regardless if they have knowledge or use for it.
 
Look; I have a top of the line pc at work, and a mini mac at home. I love my mac, and would buy another one in a heartbeat. I personally know people in graphic arts/magazine publishing/aadvertising and they all use macs. my 2 have never gotten a virus, or crashed-that's gooe enough for me. Lol, hipster..
 
I have been using Macs long before it was popular to do so. I don't get viruses, you can't say that for Windows!! I LOVE my Mac. And there is no in he double hockey sticks that i would ever go to a Windows machine. Either keep it or sell it, what ever trips yout trigger.
 
I'm with the TheKnifeCollector. My first Mac was a Mac SE, purchased in 1987. It had two, count 'em two floppy drives and a ginormous 20mb external hard drive. The thing never gave me a moment of trouble and I kept using it until 1995 or so when I needed something faster.

I drifted away from Macs in the late 90's, mostly because I care about the stability of operating systems and both Apple and Microsoft were stuck on antiquated technology that didn't offer protected core memory or true multitasking. Both companies fixed this problem, first Microsoft with Windows 2000 and then Apple with MacOS X. But by then I was a Linux junkie, into building my own boxes and hacking the code that I could download for free off the web.

But then I started having kids, and suddenly my time was worth something again. So Linux had to go.

Fortunately, just about then Mac OS X came out and Apple was once again offering a product that had all the features I personally demand in a desktop environment. Meanwhile, I couldn't help notice that Windows was becoming more and more bloated, often performing work that got in my way, and generally having trouble with collecting garbage in the form of spyware and viruses simply from normal, everyday usage. This was something I can not tolerate.

You'll notice that in all of this, my decision to use or not use a computing platform has nothing to do how "sexy" I think the device is. Nor does it have anything to do with some cult-like "Macs are superior" ideology that some people seem to be burdened with. It's just that they happen to offer a solid computing platform that doesn't get in my way (very much).

As for expense.... A feature for feature comparison with a Dell will show you that a Mac is in the same price range as the Dell, plus or minus 10%. It is true that you can get a Dell for a lot less money, but then it is also true that that Dell is not something I would want to use as it would not support my activities. And, yeah, you can build your own machine for a lot less money than a Dell or a Mac. But then, again, I have kids and a life and my time is worth money ....

If someone handed me a new piece of gear like that, one that I had no experience with, I know I'd at least open the box and play with it until I knew whether it was something that I wanted to use or not.
 
Bulron, I have thought about opening it to see how I felt, but then decided against it since it would greatly reduce the ammount I could get for it in the event I did not want to keep it.

I can see and understand all your reasons for loving the Mac, yet "sexy" is always a reason to buy something, just take a look at the Gunhammer! lol
 
I thought about buying a Mac a while back and then remembered that I like to play games :D

To be fair there are some games for Mac, but it's SO much more limited, as is gaming hardware/periferals.

Sorry, it's a touchy point with my Mac owning friends, but I just had to, hehehe

Jon
 
Games is the one reason I know of to own a PC. I can play games on the Mac, but not as many and not as well as on a PC. OTOH, I have exactly zero time for games these days, so that "limitation" doesn't particularly bother me.

Anyway, if I wanted to play games, wouldn't these gaming consoles for the TV be better (Nintendo or whatever the current fav is)? Or, for that matter, a basketball and a hoop ...
 
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