Don't mess with big crocs

yoda4561 said:
... and half the time the neighbors were feeding the them.
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Like bears at garbage dumps, sooner later they go directly after the garbage dumpers -- us.

Part of the problem might be the unfamiliarity of many people, urban people, with wildlife. The same kid who knows better than to pet the rat behind his apartment house should also know better than to go nose to nose with the large reptile that just crawled up out of the swamp.

Maybe if someone made a movie about salties like "Jaws" it would instill a salutary bit of fear in the general population.
 
Anyone stupid enough to play with a croc, (or alligator for that matter), deserves to get eaten. No sympathy from me.
 
A good movie perhaps, there have been a few (lake placid) but they're all really really bad :foot: Gators are a bit more "docile" than crocs, usually just mind their own buisness unless they get used to people and figure why not see if they're tasty. In any case, alligator crocodile cayman and any other related species are not a good idea to play around with.
 
CanDo,

That's definitely a gator, not a Croc.

The ranger fed you a "croc of ..." um, you fill in the rest...:p

Evolute: awesome as always.

Ming, thanks for the link.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Maybe if someone made a movie about salties like "Jaws" it would instill a salutary bit of fear in the general population.
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They did Essav - but it wasn't a huge hit. You could probably find it on DVD easy enough.

http://www.roguecrocodile.com/

I just looked at the trailer for that film - looks like they filmed part of it near Kunnunnura. I recognise some of that country.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Maybe if someone made a movie about salties like "Jaws" it would instill a salutary bit of fear in the general population.
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Nahhh.. the people who know about the bush are smart enough to keep out of their way. Idiots from the city learn the hard way, evolution in action.

Tourists make for a bit of amusement in the news occasionally.

I wouldn't wander around in your city without getting advice from the locals. People from there should take advice when they wander into the bush!
 
Same thing online -- with less bloodshed :) -- when we get newbies who think BF is just like their high school class, and they get to blurt out whatever pops into their so-called minds.

Those don't generally survive here long either. :p
 
That contradicts some of what we've been saying about people getting hurt because they mess around with the animals.

But on this occasion it's difficult to understand what's motivated the animal.
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Um, he was hungry?
 
Who am I to question the motivations of a crocodile?

If he wants to come into my tent I'll just grab whatever cutting instrument is handy, make a hole in the back of the tent and go climb a tree.
 
hahaha Reminds me of the many stories we hear on the news of Americans coming over here and thinking our crocodiles are the same as your crocodiles and gators. Then finding out they are not in the worst possible way. Our salties actively hunt and eat people, one of the reasons the aboriginals never take the same path to a watering hole in the top end.
 
Trust me, it makes no difference for me wheter it is an aligator or a crocodile. It is simple: bigger than 3 feet and has teeth = DANGEROUS. Same goes with sharks... and I have fished a few of the non-dangerous species... they all bite.
Mikel
 
xinel said:
.......one of the reasons the aboriginals never take the same path to a watering hole in the top end.
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The people I know up North (Umbulguri mob mostly) are wierd about crocs. How so? Two identical waterholes (to my eyes) at one they play and splash and sit with their legs dangling in the water - at the other they'll get a look of abject fear in their eyes and not go anywhere near the edge. They've certainly got a layer of knowledge about croc behaviour beyond ours.

Here's an example

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This isn't anywhere really remote, it's just near a big town, but this river is absolutely full of crocs and there are spots not 100m from here that the locals wouldn't go anywhere near - yet here they are splashing around....wierd. Drive over this crossing at night and shine your torch around and you'll see plenty of orange eyes in the water staring back at you.
 
When I first saw that alleged croc pic, I thought it kinda looked like a croc. But maybe only because I was expecting to see a croc. The eyes look like they're set down in the head further or something. And it's difficult to see the shape of the snout because of the angle. I'm not convinced either way...although I am swayed by the experts here.
 
xinel said:
. . . one of the reasons the aboriginals never take the same path to a watering hole in the top end.
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"Top end?" Could you translate for me (a clueless Northern Hemispherian)?

And are you saying that the aboriginals vary their paths to watering holes to avoid cluing crocodiles in to where to lie in wait?

My father-in-law recently visited some relatives in Australia. He said there was a place where he and fellow tourists were shown salties rather close-up. While the other tourists had their attention turned to other things, my father-in-law noted that one of the crocodiles sort of positioned itself in such a way that, were it not for whatever guardrail or obstacle was there to protect the people from the reptile, it would be well-placed for an attack on the people from the side. In other words, he thought he was observing stalking behaviour from the beast.
 
More likely than not he was 'observing stalking behavior' with that croc. I have some friends down under; and spent time around river mouths that empty into the ocean near pearl diving areas. We saw plenty of salties while bush camping up the river for the week we were there. Those are true living dinosaurs, and I have quite a bit of experience with both, the American Alligator, and the Crocodile native to the SE USA. Salties are like the Great Whites of the crocodilian family if you ask me. Gotta respect them! Local knowledge in the bush down under is the only way to stay safe, whether you're on a station or river bush camp IME. I have plenty of photos of me with 10-12ft alligators nearby from my work at Everglades NP. Though I was'nt 'fazed' by them being within 20-25ft; I was well aware of my postion and their attitude/body positions as I worked. The one time a croc in the 'Glades made me change my work pants was when I had walked back from a building, and was about to cross over a small bridge. I noticed some garbage down on the embankment and thought i should be a do gooder and go trash it. Happened to be right near a tree, which under it's mottled shade laid half out of the water a 10-12ft croc. I was walking right for it when I suddenly got my sixth sense and stopped in mid stride! WHEW! that was way too close for me, another 10ft and I could've easily fallen victim had the croc decided to move on me. I can see it lying there as clear as if it had happened this morning, and it occurred 25years ago!! I can't forget how well camoflagued it appeared in the mottled shade with it's body dried out by the Sun.....
 
Brain Jones Tells me if I do this, the animal will go right to sleep.:eek:

No Worries, Mate.:D:D:D

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I'm going out now to see how this works on the Bear.:eek:
I'll let you know how well this works out.:D:D
 
Return of the J.D. said:
"Top end?" Could you translate for me (a clueless Northern Hemispherian)?

And are you saying that the aboriginals vary their paths to watering holes to avoid cluing crocodiles in to where to lie in wait?

My father-in-law recently visited some relatives in Australia. He said there was a place where he and fellow tourists were shown salties rather close-up. While the other tourists had their attention turned to other things, my father-in-law noted that one of the crocodiles sort of positioned itself in such a way that, were it not for whatever guardrail or obstacle was there to protect the people from the reptile, it would be well-placed for an attack on the people from the side. In other words, he thought he was observing stalking behaviour from the beast.
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the top end usualy is meaning the Northern Teritory , but can man the general tropical north of Aus , depending on who you are talking with

Salties are smart critters , they observe other critters habbits and ambush and stalk them .
 
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