Don't Poo Poo the Cougar

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I have frequently gotten the impression that most folks don't take the cougar seriously as a potential threat to man in the wild. I think part of the reason is that many have never seen any cougars besides the lean, small-headed females that are almost always the cats that appear in wildlife photographs. My own impression was changed forever the first time I saw a large male in captivity at a zoo.

The mountain lion is, in fact, the fourth heaviest cat in the world, behind the tiger, lion and jaguar. That's right, the cougar is larger than the leopard, a cat which is feared by most visitors to the African or asian bush.

The average female cougar weighs from 75 to 105 lbs. But the much larger male ranges from 115 to 160 lbs on average, and can reach top weights of up to 260 lbs, with a nose to tail-tip length of 9 ft. Also, the head of the male is proportionally much larger than that of the female.

A picture is worth a thousand words. So have a look at this large male that was accidentally struck by a car in Arizona. Game officials and wildlife veterinarians were unable to save the cat and his body was subsequently donated to a taxidermist who mounted the animal for exhibition in a museum.

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It took three men to lift the animal, whose weight was estimated to be about 220 lbs, not the largest on record by any means. The width of the big cats paw was 8 in. across and his length was 7 ft from his nose to the tip of his tail. Here's a pic of the paw:

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Be careful in cougar country folks. ;)

BTW, my brother, who worked for Texas Parks and Wildlife for 30 years, tells me that there are now five documented cases of jaguars living in southern Arizona. These cats live on ranches and are protected by the landowners. Jaguars have recorded body weights of up to 350 lbs.

Watcherass :eek:
 
Their range is expanding. Documented cases even in Missouri. I hope some day to see one.
 
Wow! I always thought they were a bit smaller. The one in memphis zoo is alot smaller. Thanks for posting
 
Cougar attacks are rising here along the westcoast. Does anyone have the link where the BC man killed a cougar with his pocket knife?
PS, when I saw your title I thought you were talking about cougar allen:p.
 
there is a great artical about a well fit man,fishing,stopped for a piss break and while using the restroom turned around and starring right at him was a male cougar...and pounced on him....he got the cougar off of him but he was jacked up but he recalls never hearing the cougar sneak up on him while using the restroom
 
Yup. I was going to move this to Service & Support ! :D

Wow, that is one big cat. I spent a lot of time in the old Central Park Zoo in NYC, when they had the cats in cages like prison cells. Very bad for them, but we could get close enough to really see how big they were. Add in the speed they move at, and that is a formidable predator.
 
Dern, Elmo! what a cat! :eek:

I came across a mother once. Foretunately, I was not between it and it's kits. Also, I was really nice and close to my car....and it was 50+ feet away...Amazing animal! :thumbup:
 
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Their range is expanding. Documented cases even in Missouri. I hope some day to see one.

Even stranger, did you see the news that one was shot by police on the near north side of Chicago. This was not the suburbs, it was maybe a mile or so from the Chicago loop.
 
There are a few reports every year of sightings around the city I live in. The Eastern Cougar is supposed to be extirpated in this part of the world, but I'm not so sure............

Doc
 
wow..:eek: that is a big cat... i've seen that pic before... those cougars are no joke... we have some around here, but i don't think they get that big...:o
 
So what is the best way to deal with a cougar?

Sprinkle salt and pepper on your *ss..just cause your gonna die is no excuse to be rude.
 
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The mountain lion is, in fact, the fourth heaviest cat in the world, behind the tiger, lion and jaguar. That's right, the cougar is larger than the leopard, a cat which is feared by most visitors to the African or asian bush.

Be careful in cougar country folks.

It's also my understanding that they are about the most accomplished pouncers among the cats. IIRC, they can easily jump 20 ft. :eek:

They are not officially recognized as currently occurring here in WV, but there are a lot of folks who swear they've seen them. I seem to recall a story about a road-killed cougar here some time ago. It's presence was explained away as an escaped/released illegal exotic pet. :rolleyes:
 
That is a good reminder to us that hike in cougar country how large they can be. Like most other people I've never seen one but there are quite a few in Zion
N.P. and the surrounding area.

I'm told to wave your arms and try to look bigger than you are. Most likely they'll run off. Keywords: "most likely"

Win
 
I live along the Missouri river, and the Nebraska DNR, in it's infinate wisdom, released ten one year old males in 2001. One of the cats wandered into a city in NE Nebraska and was shot by the local police department when it becamed treed 2 blocks from the local high school. The school is approximatly 1/2 a mile from the banks of the missouri river. It is not uncommon to come accross sign when out fishing or hunting.

I have removed the 22 pistol from my bag, and replaced it with a 45 acp, with +P ammunition. My fear, is that I will never hear or see it coming. Many times I am fly fishing the wing dikes alone with my black lab, with the boat several hundred yards away. The lab, I hope, will sound the alarm. There is a rumor, unconfirmed report, of a group of boaters banking and proceeding to have a party. One of the members sighted a cat during a urination break, crouched in the weeds behind the group.

They are out there, I just hope to never see one.
 
They are out there, I just hope to never see one.

Actually, you should hope to see one -- it's exactly what you are talking about! If you see one, chances are stronger you'll not be attacked, and you'll walk away with that wonder of seeing an incredible animal.

The thing you probably mean is, "They are out there. I hope not to feel one!" :D
 
there have been a bunch of sightings here in new jersey. NEW JERSEY!
not confirmed by dept of fish and wildlife of course.
 
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