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Dozier -- CNC?

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Joe Congi

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Hi All:

I am chomping at the bit for a Dozier Classic or a Buffalo River Hunter; but AG Russell is sold out (on both) and the wait is about 3-4 mos.

They do have the new Dozier Master Hunter, but this blade is CNC production made.

I was wondering if any of you guys had seen this knife, and what you think of a Dozier that was CNC made vs. Handmade. I prefer the handmade, but have never seen the CNC.

Both are D2.

Hard waiting 3-4 months when you want something, but maybe it is worth the wait.

Thanks,

Joe
 
3 or 4 months is nothing! I was quoted a 10-12 month wait on the last knife I ordered direct from Dozier's shop.
Anticipation is half the fun.
 
I once had a whittler model, the handmade version. I currently have a cnc job that I bought at AGR. As I understand it, the handmades are hollow ground and the cnc are sent for flat grinding. To me, workmanship is excellent on either type and heat-treat is still done in Bobs shop. Quality control is strict no matter which you choose.

Still, you sound set on getting the handmade, just sounds like what you really want, so in the long run you are probably better off waiting, otherwise you might feel as though you just 'settled'. Just my opinion.
 
If things haven't changed since I last read up on Dozier production, the non-handmade Doziers have the flat ground blanks cut outside of house, and then Dozier Knives does the rest of the work, including finishing and heat treatment. Theoretically, they should be every bit as good as the Dozier hand made knives, but with a flat grind. You may not get the pride of ownership associated with owning a handmade knife, but you're sure to get the Dozier quality. Bob wouldn't let anything out of his if it weren't perfectly functional. I also happen to love flat grinds. :D
 
Thanks Gentleman for your responses.

Buzz, and Sak: thanks for the details, I really like flat ground blades; Plus it's good to know that the heat treating is finished at the Dozier shop.

Johnny: thanks for the link. Some good-looking knives there!

The "Dozier Master Hunter" (cnc blade) looks like a real nice knife with Desert Ironwood at $250. It's a good size knife, and I have a fairly large hand and I like at least a 4 1/2" handle if I can get it.

Here's a link to AGR:

http://www.agrussell.com/knives/by_..._dozier_master_hunter_with_coral_rucarta.html


Any more input regarding CNC production, and or the Dozier Master Hunter is appreciated.

Thanks again,

Joe
 
I have about a half dozen of Bob's knives. Two of which are the out sourced flat grind models. The quality of construction on the flat grinds are just as good as the handmades. However, I personally prefer the hollow grind blades. If you like a flat ground blade, go ahead and get the Master Hunter from AG Russell, my bet is that you will not be dissappointed. I will also bet that you will want another, so you may as well go ahead and order the handmade also!
 
The Master Hunter is the Dozier I will be looking for when I decide to buy a Dozier. I just handled one with the Red Micarta, IIRC, at AG Russell a few weeks ago.

That knife feels nice in your hands, and is a very good buy for one that you can use the snot out of and then sale for what you have in it.
 
Instead of bandsawing, the AG Russell exclusive models' blades are laser cut and then double disc ground from outside source. It is then sent back to the Dozier shop where final grinding, heat treat , blade edge bevelling, handle attachment/ shaping, and final finishing is done. These blades are marked- "Dozier Arkansas Knives" whereas the complete handmade models are marked- "Dozier Arkansas Made". Currently, all of the AG Russell exclusive "DOZIER ARKANSAS KNIVES" are flat ground.

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They are like the famous potato chips...ya can't have just one :D
Doziersbrass.gif
 
Ebbtide: Nice trio. How come that center Doizer (I believe a slim outdoorsman) has no markings on the blade?
 
Ebbtide:

Very nice collection! Nice photo also.

What's the handle material on the center knife, it looks great!

Joe
 
The jigged bone Slim Outdoorsman in the middle is marked on the pin.
It washed out in the photo...lighting 3 knives at once isn't easy!
Here is the reverse side
Dozier3.gif

Since I took that shot, one more has joined the stable ;)
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My straight personal has the marking on the pin as well - after polishing the brass enough times you can barely see it. Pretty soon I'll have a "sterile" Dozier. :D
 
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