Dozier CPM S30V?

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Does anybody have experience with Dozier made CPM S30V? How is it in comparison with his D2?

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I'm only familiar with Dozier's D2---which is an excellent steel---but am anxious to hear about the characteristics and performance of his S30V. I haven't heard of him using this steel yet; if he can perfect the heat treat of S30V and make it surpass any other S30V with his custom heat treat, it will be a very formidable steel.
 
If Bob Dozier ever uses it, it will be done right!

I have several knives of S30V and several of D-2. I can't really tell if one is better than the other.
 
Ben Dover said:
If Bob Dozier ever uses it, it will be done right!

I have several knives of S30V and several of D-2. I can't really tell if one is better than the other.
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You mean Dozier's CPM S30V and Dozier's D2? Dozier's D2 quite ahead of CPM S30V (Buck and Kershaw).

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I have Dozier's D-2, and Benchmade's D-2, Spyderco's CPM D-2, and Kershaw and Benchmade's S30V.

You're right, Dozier's D-2 is ahead of other maker's D-2! If Dozier uses S30V, I'll bet it will be ahead of other maker's S30V! :thumbup:
 
Ben Dover said:
I have Dozier's D-2, and Benchmade's D-2, Spyderco's CPM D-2, and Kershaw and Benchmade's S30V.

You're right, Dozier's D-2 is ahead of other maker's D-2! If Dozier uses S30V, I'll bet it will be ahead of other maker's S30V! :thumbup:
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I dont know if it would be ahead of all others S30V I would want to see it against a Sebenza's and a Striders S30V treat.
 
barrabas74 said:
I dont know if it would be ahead of all others S30V I would want to see it against a Sebenza's and a Striders S30V treat.
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Dozier's D2 quite ahead of Buck's CPM S30V which is Boss's HT - same what Strider has.

I am pretty sure he has some secret/special treatment for D2 - some way to utilize/form carbide structures, S30V has similar amount of Carbon, so he may play with carbides same way he may do for D2 and so it may potentially be ahead of all other CPM S30V as well as he way ahead of all other D2.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
I have four Dozier Knives of various sizes. His D2 is wicked. I never heard anything about him using S30V but I will be interested in seeing some of it!
 
Some clarification is in order here. The D2 blades which comes out from the Dozier shop is not the same D2 that comes from CPM (Crucible Particle Metallurgy) unless it is clearly marked as CPM D2. It is said that CPM D2 is twice as tough as "conventional" D2. But is not anymore stain resistant. CPM D2 has a finer grain structure.

As for CPM S30V, there are some Dozier mades floating out there with this steel. ;) The Dozier shop will use either steel at the customers request. However, I believe that CPM S30V will soon be phased out.

N.

www.dozierknives.com/forum
 
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'twice as tough' .Most likely tougher in transverse direction ! Conventional steel produces some directionality when rolling as far as toughness .CPM reduces that.
'finer grain' I think you mean finer and more evenly distributed carbides. Grain size is a product of HT.
What are the comments about CPM D2 from users especially compared to standard D2 ?
 
Nakano 2 said:
Some clarification is in order here. The D2 blades which comes out from the Dozier shop is not the same D2 that comes from CPM (Crucible Particle Metallurgy) unless it is clearly marked as CPM D2. It is said that CPM D2 is twice as tough as "conventional" D2. But is not anymore stain resistant. CPM D2 has a finer grain- a contributing factor to its toughness after heat treatment.

As for CPM S30V, there are some Dozier mades floating out there with this steel. ;) The Dozier shop will use either steel at the customers request. However, I believe that CPM S30V will soon be phased out.

N.

www.dozierknives.com/forum
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What can you say about edge holding of Dozier's CPM S30V? Is is same or better or worse then his D2?

Dozier's D2 is best in edge holding, but what about his CPM S30V?

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Mr. Dozier has responded to questions regarding S30V and other steels he has and will use at a customer's request.
Here is a link.....
http://dozierknives.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=258&highlight=s30v

The forum on his website has a search feature that works for anyone, even without signing up.
Nakano is a good point of contact, as he is involved in that website's operations.
What a fantastic company!
 
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I would be interested more in the CPM D2 from him over the 30V. I wonder if he has any plans with it?
 
I currently own the K-4 straight hunter in s30v along with a SNG, XM-18, and several benchmades and spyderco's. I would have to say Doziers s30v is on the same level as these others and could be better but I haven't done a comparison to say one way or the other. I do not at this time have a Dozier in D2 to compare because I live in southeast Louisiana and felt a stainless would serve me better. I can tell you this though because of the quality and performance I have had with the K-4 within the next week I will have a K2 in D2. Any knife made by Dozier and his crew is top notch.
 
Splinter said:
I currently own the K-4 straight hunter in s30v along with a SNG, XM-18, and several benchmades and spyderco's. I would have to say Doziers s30v is on the same level as these others and could be better but I haven't done a comparison to say one way or the other. I do not at this time have a Dozier in D2 to compare because I live in southeast Louisiana and felt a stainless would serve me better. I can tell you this though because of the quality and performance I have had with the K-4 within the next week I will have a K2 in D2. Any knife made by Dozier and his crew is top notch.
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If it is same as all that other steels - then I guess it is worse then his D2, which is way ahead of regular CPM S30V, at least noticeble better then Paul Bos CPM S30V.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
OK, according to his replay that he uses CPM S30V because some customers ask for it and it is as good as his D2 on some test...

I can read it as his D2 is better. I have my answer.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
Because of where I live in coastal Alaska--I like the stainless effect of S30V. I had quite a few Doziers in his D2 and love them. I also have many Ingram's in D2 and S30V. Since I love my Doziers and like stainless, I thought I would order a pair of Doziers in S30V. Ordered them, a personal and a K-2, last year in S30V and jigged bone. Got them in today. Beauties for sure, and will now have to put them to the test to see which I really like better--Dozier in his D2 or Dozier in CPM S30V. We'll see.

Will
 
I have dozier personal in d2 , i also have spyderco s30,benchmade s30, and KOA d2. I have used the s30 alot and the d2 not as much. When i say alot i mean that paramilitary in s30 has probably processed 50 animals on the ground and 30 more hanging. It seems to me all of the above are pretty close in performance but my lone wolf harsey in s30v and my KOA alpha wolf also in s30 are a pretty good step up from all those above . My s90v military is the most amazing of all. It is the best elk knife i have ever used. Elk are always terrible on a knife because the are so dirty and you can really tell on long peircing cuts what a knife will do. I love the dozier d2 because it cuts really well when sharp and it is the easiest to touch up it just takes a litte more touch up . I dont care for trailing pionts like on the personal so i will buy more doziers in the future but i want to try thier drop pionts although i prefer a longer thinner piont . Does this compare to about how yall grade these as well or not ?
 
cotdt said:
Isn't S30V supposed to be tougher than D2 when heat treated well?
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The difference according to a Crucible chart is very small. I doubt you'd notice a difference in actual use if that chart is accurate. Perhaps a good heattreat would make a difference in that too...
 
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