DPx HEST Folder Blade Setting

Discussion in 'DPx Hostile Environment Survival Tools' started by RYP, Feb 2, 2011.

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  1. ml100

    ml100

    747
    Jul 19, 2005
    Sure it's not the angle the picture was taken from. Look at the print on the blade, you can easily see the part that is missing due to a shorter blade (given the print was done in the same position.)
    Further I think the difference is to much for a simple photographic trick.
     
  2. risen

    risen Banned BANNED

    502
    Sep 18, 2010
    Can't fully recall, but I seem to remember some noting a difference in gaps via in-person visual/physical checks, not just from pictures.
    From a financial standpoint, I'm sure the pin would probably be the least expensive fix, for those who would be satisfied with this option. Since it's not something I'd consider to keep the knife, if there's no other fix/option, the only other alternative would be a refund, which would make the whole deal a total wash, even a setback with postage costs, not to mention a few other areas. Perhaps addressing the blade might be more costly, but there still may be some coverage($) remaining after all is said and done.
    Yeah. Perhaps if it wasn't so noticeable, it wouldn't have become such an issue, for some.
     
  3. Medic1210

    Medic1210

    Sep 16, 2002
    Well excuse me for actually reading what you said below...

    ...as meaning you only wanted the pins shipped, and for not assuming you meant to type "knives". Kinda hard to take measurements on every knife when you're only receiving the pins. I was merely going by what you said.

    Ok, excuse me... Milling.:rolleyes:
     
  4. whitty

    whitty Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Aug 25, 2005
    ml100 and risen,

    You both have good points.

    ml100 thanks for pointing out the print on the blade, I had not noticed that. I still think the angle can have some (not all) difference in it. The pics I took of mine made the gap look ridiculous when I put the camera that close. The truth is it was not nearly as big as the pics made it seem, so I did not post them.

    I have all sorts of theories about all of this but will keep them to myself and let the people who can do something about any of it answer the questions and make the decisions.

    Whitty
     
  5. risen

    risen Banned BANNED

    502
    Sep 18, 2010
    :eek:Isn't this a violation of BF guidelines?:D
     
  6. phrenik

    phrenik

    224
    Jul 19, 2010
    I do have to admit that my knife, I also have the "bigger" gap, as seen in picture 2, I don't if that validates or helps anything, just wanted to let you know its not only one person
     
  7. Anglewood

    Anglewood

    72
    Jan 7, 2007
    Hey All,

    I got the message from ikilledkenny and took a pic of the full blade. I have to admit, no matter how hard I try, I can't get the blade to catch on anything short of a fingernail. I don't see it as an issue, but others may have different opinions if their blades are spaced further out. Here is the pic:

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    -Connor
     
  8. lsheldon

    lsheldon

    Jan 2, 2009
    I agree. It really isn't a big deal to me either. But for those who it is a big deal, I'm glad to see RYP and Gianni stepping up to come to a solution that will make everyone happy. Another sign that we are dealing with a vendor who gives a sh*t about his customers.....:thumbup:
     
  9. Tripton

    Tripton

    May 26, 2008
    Just opened mine.


    After getting the blade in hand, and reading what Gianni said in the other thread, I am not as aggravated.

    Mine has very little of the tip sticking out. Small enough that I am pretty confident that nothing would ever be able to get in there. Blade is centered, it is really smooth. It was somewhat tight when I got it, but I had no problems opening it one handed. I adjusted it maybe an 1/8th of a turn and it is perfect now. No blade play at all. Aside from the glaring issues, it seems to be a very well made knife...even at the price point. Chris Reeve need not be scared...but it is pretty nice.

    My rotoblock is also adjusted perfectly. It is reasonably easy to engage, but never does so on it's own. Just the way it should be.

    The bad things? Well...the tip (not as bad as I was fearing), a few nitpicky parts about finish (barely noticeable rub marks, the lockbar cut out is really rough. stuff like that) but the main thing is the screws. Both the pivot and the rotoblock hex screws are slightly marred. It isnt enough to affect function, but it just doesnt look that good on a $250 dollar knife. It isnt anything that I havent done myself before though.

    I am not sending it back for a refund. I cannot speak for all, but my particular knife looks like the lockface on the blade is cut steep enough taht it will be able to handle a new, slightly smaller pin to adjust for the tip sticking out...and it isnt going to take much.

    I'll give them the benefit of the doubt at this point and await my pins to arrive.



    I was on the edge of canceling my production knife pre-order too...but after receiving this I am going to get it as well. It will be an interesting comparison.
     
  10. Mr. Clean

    Mr. Clean

    Apr 26, 2007
    It does look to me like the blades are slightly different lengths. This would cause the whole issue as the knife design doesn't alot for much error though. I've got a few knives, all of which seat pretty far under the liners. There's probably blade length inconsistencies with the knife models I own, but due to the design you'd never notice. There's very, very little room for error with blade length with the H*E*S*T because the blade tip would hit the back spacer. Not so much with other knives I own...
     
  11. JTC3495

    JTC3495

    Jan 3, 2008
    Even after I ground my stop pin, there was still about a 1/16" gap from blade to backspacer. The blade can not hit the backspacer because the stop pin will not allow further blade movement. Even if the blade was a bit longer that may cause other issues, like contact with the top of the backspacer. The knives may some slight variance from one to the other and I think from taking it apart the stop pin going to be the easiest fix. If Lionsteel offers several size pins you should be able to get the proper adjustment for each individual knife.
     
  12. cricketdave

    cricketdave Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 24, 2008
    i got mine just now as well. the gap does bother me but not as much as i was afraid of. i do hope there is a simple solution for it. the pivot opposite side is buggered up other than that the blade is centered and it opens smoothly. the edge is uneven but not bad.

    cricket
     
  13. Medic1210

    Medic1210

    Sep 16, 2002
    Well, would ya look at that... I was right to not assume you meant to say "send me your knives" instead of "send me your pins". No way anybody would think it only costs $0.40 in postage to mail a knife. So, tell me, how were you planning on taking all those measurements for each knife if you only had the pin?? And why would you be interested in the pin diameter too if you were planning on taking all your own measurements and doing the math yourself?

    Just FYI, when someone gives you a piece of friendly courtesy advice, don't fire back with a smartass remark trying to play it like you were fully aware of the potential issues. Especially when your prior posts on the subject prove you hadn't considered it... :rolleyes:
     
  14. Brennanscott

    Brennanscott

    Jul 8, 2010
    Why don't you threaten him like you did to everybody in the Sebenza thread?

    Rage much?
     
  15. jforbush

    jforbush

    Sep 29, 2007
    I am really surprised that no one has brought up the idea of if you replace the pin and lower the tip won't that force the heel of the blade closer to the outside of the liners. Mine is pretty close now....I can touch the sharpened blade with my little finger now...pushing it further up would only make it easier to cut myself or whatever is in my pocket.
     
  16. Medic1210

    Medic1210

    Sep 16, 2002
    Exaggerate much? Hey, why don't you just start posting a bunch of useless drivel that makes absolutely no sense like you did in the sebenza thread? Do you ever have anything useful to say? :jerkit:
     
  17. Shipwrecked

    Shipwrecked

    350
    Oct 16, 2010
    So all this is over a pocket knife huh? Oh you guys
     
  18. Vermilion

    Vermilion

    272
    Apr 7, 2010
    Sad isn't it? I just got mine and besides a slightly buggered pivot screw its a fucking badass knife. The baddest assed knife I've ever owned. If I would have bought this knife without ever having been on these forums I doubt I would have even noticed any of these things. I do have one small issue, the rotolock doesn't move but just a hair. Having watched some video's of the knife I have seen it move a good bit to lock and unlock the knife. Maybe it just needs to be loosened.
     
  19. RYP

    RYP

    820
    Jul 11, 2009
    We will replace ANY hardware or parts that are damaged in shipping sent a photo of the part to [email protected] with your return address
     
  20. Monsieur

    Monsieur

    610
    Jan 22, 2010
    Don't worry about it, it will break in nicely within a few days. I have many different rotoblock knives and they all had that. Now they are as smooth as you like
     
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