Thought Ide show some steps I am making a knife tonight how far I got in 2 hours. Took it up to 500 on the sides and hollow ground to 220. Im trying something a little different and taking the grind right to the spine . Looks flat ground but thats just the way the pictures are it feels good and even it should reall perfrom like a champ. here are some pictures. Ill do the vine pattern on the spine and send it off for heat. then Ill show it again after. kellyw