Dylan Santose. Scumbag?

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I'm starting to think yes. Here's the story. Dec 13, 2004 Dylan Santose agrees to buy a knife from me. Says that he needs a week or two, since he's still Christmas shopping and that he also has to send a donation to Ren for the charity cause. I say, ok, the knife is yours and I'll consider it sold. Well, guess what? It's been a month, and no money order has shown up. No replies to any of the the 3 email inquiries I have sent either. Now, I'm not really out any money, other than the fact that I could have sold the knife a half dozen time since then, but it still pisses me off. Does a person's word mean NOTHING anymore? I know if I tell somebody I'm buying a knife from them, you can bet that I will damn sure be sending them money. I will also answer their emails.

Now, there could always be some kind of circumstances that are keeping him from getting my emails or replying, but I think this "scumbag?" just changed his mind and doesn't have the guts or courtesy to let me know. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly apologize.
 
Danbo said:
Does a person's word mean NOTHING anymore?
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Nope. I stopped shipping stuff I sell "simultaneously" after having enough lies and excuses, and it's made me reluctant to trade, though I still do it sometimes. I've been lied to about the condition of knives I traded for or bought several times, lied to about when it will ship, etc, etc.
These losers think they're original, not realizing that all the other losers who also think they're original use the exact same stories.
These forums are not what they were a few years ago. You can hardly even post negative feedback about dishonest traders without a bunch of other people coming to their defense, or making excuses for them. I'm sure someone will get bent out of shape because you called this guy a scumbag for not following through on his end. It won't be me ;)
 
As there gets to be more and more people on the forums there are going to be a lot more problems. It's just the law of averages. There are people on this forum that I would send stuff to before receiving their half of the deal and there are people that I would not do that for. I have never had any problems in my dealings here, but I haven't done very many transactions either. The more you do the more chance there is that something bad will happen.

If something has happened that has made it impossible for Dylan Santose to follow through on his end of the deal, then he should have the courage to contact you and let you know. Just leaving you hanging is a classless thing to do. Danbo, you have every right to be upset.
 
I am fortunate. I am fairly new to BF, and EVERYONE I have delt with here has been stand up. If there were circumstances beyond their control, or mine, they were quickly and appropriately rectified. It helps dealing with some of the same people multiple times.

I am sorry to hear things like this. :( I have had bad relationships elsewhere (this is clearly documented on this forum). :mad: It makes me appreciate the good relationships I have. David
 
VERY frustrating. Similar incident on another forum. Seller asked to hold a knife for discussion, maybe a sale, maybe not. And time goes by, no action, no answer, no sale ... when should he put the knife back up for sale?

Forget it! Dealing with friends, OK, give them a day or two. You know they'll get back to you. But if you're dealing with someone you don't know yet, fall back on "the first I'll take it, gets it." If they want to discuss it, a trade, a drop in price, they better realize that you will take someone else's REAL offer as soon as it comes in.

It ain't worth the aggravation. Too many good guys around to put up with discourtesy.
 
In this situation as Danbo describes, scumbag is a most fitting term.

If you tell the seller you agree to buy the knife and the seller acknowledges and agrees to sell it........................PAY for the freakin thing and maintain communication.

Scumbag? Yup!!!
 
I have to disagree with the "scumbag" designation. If he'd taken your knife and not paid you, I'd say scumbag. If he didn't pay child support, or liked to eat live puppies, I'd say scumbag. But he backed out of a deal and didn't have the courtesy to tell you. It's weak, it's lame, it's inconsiderate, but I wouldn't say he's a scumbag.

And you should've known better Danbo, taking a knife off the market without payment from someone you hadn't dealt with before. That's probably part of why you're so pissed, because you know you should've known better. You know what they say, no good deed goes unpunished.

These forums are a great place for buying/selling/trading, but you have to be careful. There are people on this forum I would trust in any deal, and Danbo's at the top of that list. But "hold it for a week or two until I get the money" is not a deal, it's a deal to make a deal, it's an engagement. I wouldn't do it, even with someone I trusted, because it just opens up the possibility for problems.
 
I just had a small incident happen to me.Said the magic words to a newbie.His only posts were in the for sale forum.Asked him for his address or phone #(I was paying by paypal) never heard anything.He put the knife back up for sale.I feel kind of bad,but we'll see.Someone else bought the knife.
Randy
 
Well, I didn't actually call him a scumbag, per se. I merely questioned whether or not he was a scumbag. But, I still think it was a scumbag kind of thing to do.
 
OK, perhaps we can agree on scumbag-ish. One thing I forgot to say in my first post is it is definitely a shi11y thing to happen to someone, and I was sorry to hear it happened to you. So...you still got the knife? What is it? What do you want for it? :)
 
Danbo is a stand-up guy. I've had the pleasure of meeting him at the St. Louis knife show 2 years in a row now. This sucks! Pay up!
Matt
 
People that don't reply or back out of deals are scumbags. Its the downside of the membership growth all the forums have experienced. To many people come on the forums with a nonchalant attitude. I've said it before,,this is where serious people come to feed their obsession,,halfassed people who are in over their heads and don't take their committments seriously should,,well,, you know.

:)
 
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