Eafengrow steel type legit?

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Greggy said:
Ruike Jager, check it out. 14C28N steel.
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Nice knife. I don't really have a Bushcraft knife, except my Cold Steel SRK in CPM-3V. CPM-3V has a decent amount of chromium, but it will still rust without a blade coating.
 
Arathol said:
If you have a knife of any sort, you have a bushcraft knife......LOL
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The hardcore Bushcraft types would disagree with you. According to them, it needs to be a knife from a Scandinavian country, and it has to have a Scandi grind. I agree with you. I'm pretty sure my flat grind, CPM-3V SRK will do pretty much everything, with respect to small work.
 
DDDYLN said:
The hardcore Bushcraft types would disagree with you. According to them, it needs to be a knife from a Scandinavian country, and it has to have a Scandi grind. I agree with you. I'm pretty sure my flat grind, CPM-3V SRK will do pretty much everything, with respect to small work.
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LOL man has been doing this so called "bushcraft" stuff for a million years.....literally......without the benefit of a specially designed bushcraft knife.....
 
"Eafengrow" always sounded like a sketch name to me, kind of like "Erminetrout" or "Waynegrow." 😄

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chalby said:
As for Eafengrow, they are not a company I would ever buy from regardless. If they have lied about the steel before, who knows whether they do anything properly? Are you going to trust that they did a proper job on the heat treatment even if they have stopped lying about the steel after having been found out?
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...& Others above, not to pick on chalby in specific; he simply had the longer quote on the subject.
To set the record straight, as that company has since published, their steel supplier miss-marked their steel rather routinely, until the EF (Eafengrow) heads saw what was happening: 2019, Six Years Ago... They weren't Lying; they themselves were sadly misled.
Since then, EF has had an Independent Company Verify the Integrity of each shipment of steel they've received, and the EF company has new owners that clearly care about & pay attention to steel types, as well as other details that matter to the knife buying public, like Heat Treatment, Fit & Finish & properly snug, secure & SOLID Sheaths.
Looks like many who commented/posted here, have NOT purchased any. I bought one of the "off-steel" types in January 2019, a Titanium Frame Lock Folder, the EF 905, now discontinued, but not before changing out that steel along with other Ti-Frame Lock Folders to the rather premium 80CrV2 steel. Mine was advertised as D2, but it was NOT stamped D2 or anything else as others reported from that "era" around early 2019. Others had complained as well, and that's when they queried their supplier and found out what had been done. Their Customer Service is Excellent, their New Owners were On Top of the Quality Control After that point, and Now? Well, Now you have "Old News" as if it's current, when it's not.
Since that time, I've purchased EIGHT other EF Knives (Well: One was the CH3504 so a different make thru Eafengrow) and Everything that they've sent is THE STEEL THEY STAMPED. I know D2 when I see it, use it, & even Smell It as distinct from other steels. (That's a truthful boast about the smell: I was doing some lock installation work for a glass-blower tool-maker in Northern California years ago, and the owner was working a piece of metal for a glass-blowing tool about 60 feet from my perimeter position of the warehouse work space. I looked at him, smelled the air, and asked, "Hey, where are you buying your D2 Tool Steel from? I could use some!" He looked up with a start & said, "My workers don't even know the Type of Steel we use here, so How the Heck do you figure it's D2 Tool Steel?" I replied, "I can smell it... I know steels from the smell they put out when worked; I'm a knife-maker when not working with locks or teaching folks to Climb Rocks, and I've worked with different steel types for Years." He chuckled, then wound up selecting a small chunk of cutoff D2 for me and said: "You earned this, now go make something useful with it..."
My CH3504 is D2. 1000's of cardboard boxes & hundreds of electrical wires later, & that Blade only needed a stropping. Nearly 4 Years of EDC Strong, and I've taken it briefly to a Ceramic Stone a mere 4X in that time span. "It's D2."
As to the other steels they use, One is the Swedish Sandvik 14C28N, a rather Superior Steel in today's marketplace. I bought One for myself in that Steel, EF123, a 6" Bladed G10 Jade Jewel of a Knife, and I would pit this against ANY PRODUCTION BLADE out there. So much so, that I bought a SECOND EF123 for a Buddy here on the BF, Along with 2 others, the EF145 in DC53 (Twice as Tough of Steel as D2, & more Impact Resistant than S7 Shock Steel used in Jackhammer bits!? That's saying something...), and another folder in D2 Steel, the EF339, for him to Experience the Quality that this company is NOW putting out: It's quite phenomenal, regardless of the inexperienced gainsaying. Bought a second EF339 for me as well as a "Back-up D2 Folder" since my CH3504 is also N/A anymore; "More's the Pity..."
The New Eafengrow product has the Fit & Finish of Custom Makers, No Play in these Folders at Lock-Up, Blades in the Perfect Center between their Bronze or Ceramic Bearings (depending upon model), and they are SERIOUS about treating their customers Right, including Accurate Steel Types, for around 5 Full Years Now. There's Not a bad Apple in the Bunch of these last EIGHT Knives purchased; and bear in mind folks, I usually save my hard-earned shekels for Busse Combat Knives, with an occasional foray into Cold Steel (of which I'm routinely disappointed in CS quality, & as they don't actually MAKE Knives; others do under their name, "just to set the record straight" on that as well). WTG (Work Tuff Gear) makes Quality Blades Superior to CS, I've Experienced First-Hand, but they're "catching on" -- like my experience of Bark River Knife & Tool -- that they can Command Superior Prices as well, Sadly "Enuf." EF makes just as Quality Knives as both of them, at Reasonable costs. Just Saying -- From Experience of Buying Them & Using Them. I Cut a LOT of Wood where I'm at. These EF (& CH) Blades are Premium Cutters, from cardboard & Precision work for the Folders, to Batoning & All Out Chopping with the Bigger Blades.
(Take Note: I'm enough of a Knife User/Abuser that I am outspoken in saying the Camillus-produced Becker Knives were Superior to the Kabar of Thick-as-a-Brick offerings out today: Didn't Kabar LEARN from the Blackjack Days that Thicker 1095 Steel isn't as useful for Cutting as the sleeker 3/16" of Camillus Perfection for the Becker Wunderkinds? Guess Not... )
The fact that they (EF) foray into a variety of Top End Steels should give the harshest critic pause...
As noted, I have PUT my money where my words written herein are, to Buy Others Eafengrow Knives to PROVE the point of Renewed Accuracy in Steel Types, Quality, Fit, Finish, & what WE look for & Expect in a Knife costing $200 to 300+ bucks, made & sold at a fraction of that price. If I were a rich Man, & could afford such, I would Gladly buy EACH of You an EF Blade so that You could Experience what you're attempting to speak on...
With FOUR TIMES the People & 4X the companies, that nation is NOT ALL Inferior in producing merch~, Folks! Wally-World sees the Lower Quadrant of merch~ produced, Not the Upper Echelon of Quality products. Some companies there Still willingly abide by the Capitalist Principle: Produce Quality Product: Earn Repeat Customers. . . The people that make these Knives & Snug Kydex Sheaths are putting some Serious Time & Heart & Care into their Goods. Even their Plunge Lines are Perfection, a particular nit-pick of mine. Do you know what Lines they Don't Have? ... Grind Lines! No Grind Lines Visible on ANY Blades from them I've encountered. Try getting That from even some American Makers. They are putting in the work: they Don't deserve the castigation without experience of their Blades, Gentlemen.
As to "copying designs" well, show me where CS or Many Others have Only produced original knife designs; they haven't. CS "Peace Maker" Series is a clip point away from being a Mora Forest Bushcraft design, from the Scandi Grind right down to the scalloped tip! But, whereas Mora uses Swedish 12C27 Steel for their Swedish-made Knives, CS uses German 4116 Steel, copied from Swedish Design by an American company, Produced in (Gasp) Taiwan! Cof, Cof. I've bought 3 Mora F/B's & 1 CS PM-2's, along with the CS Outdoorsman, re: Both of which the Mora and ANY EF Knife are Far Superior to...! I could go on, but...
I've droned on enough; Point Being: If the New Eafengrow company tells You that their Knife is AUS10, Then IT IS AUS10 STEEL. They have verification for Every Batch, Because the previous company heads DIDN'T check, so they Realize their Rep~ is on the Line for Every Knife they currently put out there. Get One via the Big A~ (Amazon) and be Guaranteed in Any Returns that You see fit to send back; the Company will respect Any & All (Fair) Feedback You may have, and is quite quick to respond.
(Bladeforums A/I Doesn't know how to Count. My count was fully 1500 Characters Less Than the Limit, but It wouldn't allow the post; so that's Part 1... TBC in a moment.)
 
(... Oh, and that EF905 Titanium Beast of a Folder with the Non-D2 Steel from 2019 that I bought? They said they had just sadly & recently (at that point) received such reports, acknowledged the error, & would refund All the purchase price, or they would Still give me a discounted refund for my trouble if I wanted to keep the knife. I took Offer #2. It is sitting next to me at my desk here, after SIX Full Years of Service; I still Don't Know what Steel the Blade is(!), but I keep it Humming Sharp, far Sharper than my Swiss Victorinox can get, & its Titanium Frame is a SOLID Lock-Up: KER-CHUNK! Its smooth chamfered Fit & Finish Rivals Anything out there at $600.)
So, Please Don't Be So Quick to Judge a Company's Products that You Personally Have NOT Experienced. Thanks for Your Time, Gentlemen.
Chop On...!
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& Cheers to Each of You!
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