How To Easier freehand sharpening

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Here I describe and illustrate what I propose as an easier approach to freehand sharpening—especially for beginners who will have trouble holding a consistent angle—compared to the "textbook" advice to follow the factory edge angle with every grit. I prepared this for A AlexSav but I am posting it for general consumption and critique.

Instruction
First the blade is thinned on a fast cutting abrasive. One does not try to actually sharpen (apex) the edge in this phase. Pressure is applied just above the original bevel shoulder with the knife nearly flat on the stone. (This obviously will scratch up the blade finish; hesitancy to do so can be a major hurdle of learning freehand sharpening.) Exact angle control is unnecessary; all that is important is never raising the spine too much which would round off the nascent edge. Firm pressure is used. A burr may be formed incidentally but it is not desired. If wet/dry sandpaper is being used for thinning strokes should be made away from the edge, at least toward the end of the process. (3M "ProGrade Precision with Cubitron II" paper works well for this if a suitable coarse stone is unavailable.)

The thinned area may be refined with finer grits after initial shaping both for appearance and reduced drag, but again the apex is not intentionally refined unless a burr was formed on the previous grit. If a burr was formed light pressure should be used to finish. The burr will remain but it will be less coarse, making the next phase easier.

A break should be taken so that the hands and mind are fresh.

Now the actual apex bevel is applied with care and focus. A wedge with a known angle appropriate for the blade type is used as a reference, and one tries to hold the blade to match while using light pressure and even strokes. (For building motor skill remember: slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Take your time.) If thinning was completed properly contact should be made only very near the apex; if not return to thinning. (Sharpie marker is used to monitor the contact area.)

A variety of sharpening and deburring methods may be employed in this beveling phase, but check sharpness often; this should not take long even with care. The mini-bevel you create can be anything from the width of a hair to about half a millimeter; if it becomes wider than that return to thinning, and try again. (More coarse apex bevels will tend to form wider.)

Explicitly this is not a complete description of sharpening; one needs technique to apply the mini-bevel successfully but it should happen quickly such that you are able to maintain care and concentration throughout. In the extreme this mini-bevel can be a micro-bevel, applied with deburring strokes alone if the thinning was taken to an apex, but treating it as a true bevel produces a better result. Among other reasons: a blade can be overly thinned without the extra "meat" of a small bevel, though it will take a beginner a lot of patience to actually manifest that problem.

Illustrations
This shall be a schematic view—proportions are not exact and differences are somewhat exaggerated. Pardon the large images; I could not seem to show what I wanted without them.

Here is a representation of the edge of a typical flat-beveled knife when sharp, in cross-section. The blade grind is where the blade finish (black coating, stone wash, etc.) stops. This profile in black will serve as a reference background in all following drawings, each in color and overlaid.

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(blue) The same edge substantially dulled.
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(green) The textbook instruction of sharpening matching the existing bevel angle. Possible only with a guide. (Note that the bevel shoulder becomes slightly wider as it is cut farther up into the blade; after repeated sharpening performance deteriorates until the blade is thinned.)
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(yellow) Instead what I believe most new freehand sharpeners produce. This results from a combination of angle variation and the fact that a stone cuts faster when pressure is higher, i.e. where it hits the shoulder or apex-area rather than the bevel flat. The effect is often compounded by using a slower cutting stone than ideal, as well as the instruction to use all grits at the same angle, resulting in fatigue or frustration and more wobble. The apex is further rounded because the new sharpener is unable to consistently hit it without raising the angle.
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(red) The target geometry that I propose, formed through a combination of significant thinning with a fast cutting abrasive, and a new edge bevel a fraction of the size of the original formed with fine abrasives. Both zones show convexity due to anticipated wobble; in this drawing they blend together but they are worked independently.
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A magnified comparison of the edge of the last two illustrations.

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I'm surprised that book is in the public domain. I've had a copy for many years.

I didn't notice anything "obviously missing", I think you hit on the main points.

Juranitch promoted the use of his own angle guides for the final steps in sharpening blades. I must say that his method certainly led to many a scratched knife face for those who followed his steps in the extreme. (I know I had a couple.)

For such a simple concept, (sharpening, that is), it's truly amazing how much discussion, debate and how many products it has generated.

I never tire of my fascination with the topic, though, thankfully, I'm in the "good enough" camp and rarely feel the need to seek perfection. (I don't need to make myself any more obsessive than I already am. :p)
 
I'm surprised that book is in the public domain.
Possibly it is not and that is an illegitimate copy. I won't disseminate it further.

I didn't notice anything "obviously missing", I think you hit on the main points.
Thank you.

Juranitch promoted the use of his own angle guides for the final steps in sharpening blades.
I haven't read that far, but I find that very interesting because I've settled on thinning by hand but using an Edge Pro for the mini-bevel when I need ultimate sharpness.

I must say that his method certainly led to many a scratched knife face for those who followed his steps in the extreme. (I know I had a couple.)

I feel as though it is not possible to learn freehand sharpening properly without scratching faces, because trying to match bevel angles results in the blunted edge illustrated in yellow. Knives do eventually need thinning unless they are either never used or retired when the edge gets fat, right? Murray Carter promotes full thinning of his knives (in time) as a routine part of ownership. For a custom knife that is used perhaps it is better to bevel sharpen only, then send it back to the maker for thinning and refinishing, but I'm not sure how practical it is to try to preserve display appearance on a working knife anyway. What's your approach to all this? (I have no fancy knives; mine are all users.)
 
I own a set of Murray's kitchen knives and a couple of his neck knives. I've sold the others I once owned. He has interesting thoughts on a number of matters when it comes to sharpening and stones. But I digress.

The fact that I have too many knives has allowed me to scratch the face on several during attempts to try the Juranitch method, and also on the Edge Pro because I refused to be bothered taping the blade.

Too many knives also means that I rarely need to thin the blade as I can bevel sharpen for a long time with others waiting in the wings for their turn to be used or carried.

What I was referring to in the earlier post was laying the entire face on the hone and grinding from spine to bevel. A guy can while away a good chunk of his life in that manner.

I've only sent a couple of knives back to makers because I felt they hadn't completed the job of putting an actual edge on a knife and I didn't feel like I should have to do that on a custom knife.

Never have sent one for simply sharpening or a touch up.

Generally, I go to a stone freehand, (diamond, (plated or bonded), SiC, AlOx), to do the grunt work, and finish on ceramic, bench stone or Sharpmaker, for the micro-bevel. The Sharpmaker makes it a breeze when confined to such usage...though I will sharpen cheap kitchen knives on it unless they need a few hits on diamond first.
 
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Found a couple of videos that show the Razor Edge guide in use on youtube. (I haven't watched them.) I've never seen or used the Razor Edge guide. I bought one of the Buck Knives guides a couple years back, just to have. I've never used it as yet.


 
Mr wizard thanks for this post after reading this I thought of the things I did today sharpening my 3rd ever knife and for some reason couldnt get a paper cutting edge I think some of the problem could be me not going a low enough angle on the beginning and starting steep and creating a small edge. I think I'm gonna go lower and not worry about the angle in the beginning with my 320 grit and on my diamond stone will do a 15 degree angle.
 
Mr.Wizard, thanks for your post and drawings, which help to further clarify.

First the blade is thinned on a fast cutting abrasive. One does not try to actually sharpen (apex) the edge in this phase.

A burr may be formed incidentally but it is not desired.

I form burrs, even on my coarsest stones, so I know I've reached the apex. I am curious why you try not to form an apex, and how do you know when to stop before this occurs?

I certainly agree with you about thin edges being the best and am surprised how this often isn't emphasized as much as other sharpening instructions. It seems so obvious and common sense that thin edges cut better than thicker edges. I don't think many people would argue with that.

I'd studied sharpening for quite some time before I read The Razor Edge Book of Sharpening, but it wasn't until then that I finally understood sharpening theory and was able to get sharp edges. I was actually surprised how simple sharpening is, as Blues mentioned. Juranitch's information about relief grinding was especially important and illuminating, and is the foundation of my sharpening. After getting a good relief grind, finishing with finer grits (if I do) is quick and easy. And, if a lot of metal has to be removed to get a thin edge, it only has to be done once.

One drawback to this method is that it can scratch a blade, as you said, but all my knives are working knives. I don't worry about scratches, especially when I know I am getting the best edge I can, anymore than I worry about scratching my shovels.

I think the near-obsession I often see regarding holding a consistent freehand sharpening angle is unnecessary for most people. For one thing, it's impossible and, for another, a slightly convexed edge will be obtained (as you noted), which isn't a bad thing. I'm certainly not advocating sloppy sharpening, but I don't think a few degrees one way or another matters much for what most of us use our knives for. Not stressing about holding exactly the same angle repeatedly makes freehand sharpening more enjoyable, at least for me.

As I mentioned, though, I only need working, utility knife edges which are coarse and toothy. I admire people who can whittle hair with knives but have no need for that level of sharpness. If I did I'd probably have to pay more attention to precise sharpening angles or use a guided system.
 
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For such a simple concept, (sharpening, that is), it's truly amazing how much discussion, debate and how many products it has generated.

I never tire of my fascination with the topic, though, thankfully, I'm in the "good enough" camp and rarely feel the need to seek perfection. (I don't need to make myself any more obsessive than I already am. :p)

+1 :thumbsup: :)
 
Mr.Wizard, thanks for your post and drawings, which help to further clarify.

I form burrs, even on my coarsest stones, so I know I've reached the apex. I am curious why you try not to form an apex, and how do you know when to stop before this occurs?

Glad you like it. Let me know if there is anything I should change or add, in your opinion.

I first learned to sharpen using an Edge Pro following Ben Dale's manual. Somewhere in there he says the ultimate edge is achieved by stopping just before you form a burr so it was something I would try to do though usually miss. Later I read about plateau or "burr free" sharpening and supposed benefits. Finally I learned about subsurface damage which explains some of these claims. I don't really try to sharpen without raising a burr somewhere because microscopically I don't think that is possible, but I do try to avoid burrs at coarse grits. I start by "bread-knifing" (jointing, de-stressing) the edge on a fine, soft stone, so it's uniformly flat, then look for reflected light to shrink or check when the edge starts to catch on my thumbnail.
 
I'll start by saying I don't typically thin my knives. I may lay the edge bevel back but I'm generally not thinning out the entire blade. I first try to buy knives with geometries that I like. I'll mark the edge to guide me on where the factory grind is but to some degree or another, it always come out being my own.

That said, my first real foray into thinning the blade was on this Dexter Russell (shown here prior to me messing with it):

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I bought that knife specifically to see how I felt about nakiri-ish style blades and to mess with and learn on. In the picture above I'd sharpened it once or twice. The factory edge was very narrow and steep. I started laying it back but one day said the heck with it and slapped the side onto a Norton Crystolon course stone. I canted it up a couple degrees and started grinding on each side. YIKES! That's not for the faint of heart the first time! :)

Then I took it to a fine India. I did several more sessions on the India over the months. Going very low, just a few strokes at a time and observing. I increased my angle to thin the behind the edge angle and the especially the front of the knife. It was scratched for sure but I eventually took some 600 and then I think 1000 grit paper to the sides and it smoothed out. Still visible but smooth.

That knife is a slicing machine but not so thin that the edge suffers. The steel is soft so I didn't get carried away.

I gifted that knife to my niece and her and her husband love it.
 
If I remember correctly, (and it may have changed since), but I believe Sal Glesser used to be in the camp that didn't advocate sharpening to the point of raising a burr.

And I believe that Cliff Stamp also recommended stopping short of raising a burr as well, (while examining the edge under strong light), but I'm not necessarily current with the methodologies he endorses.

(I can't remember if when sharpening popsicle sticks as a kid, (both on the sidewalk and bricks), whether I stopped short of forming a burr or not. I know I used a multitude of techniques and strokes. :p)
 
I started laying it back but one day said the heck with it and slapped the side onto a Norton Crystolon course stone. I canted it up a couple degrees and started grinding on each side. YIKES! That's not for the faint of heart the first time! :)

Yes, but sharpening becomes so much easier once you overcome that, and when you discover the performance of a thin edge you start to want it on all your knives, right?
 
Yes, but sharpening becomes so much easier once you overcome that, and when you discover the performance of a thin edge you start to want it on all your knives, right?

I think there is a balance but in general yes, thin cuts.
 
So basically you're advocating for grinding off the shoulder of a V bevel, and continuing to thin that area as much as possible. That I am on board with. Doing so will increase the cutting performance of almost every knife on the market.

Past that I'm not quite sure where you're going. Are you suggesting continuing to grind off the shoulder until you reach the apex? Or getting as close as possible then microbeveling the edge?

But then you're also arguing against forming a burr? This I can not support. Apex formation is the crux of sharpening, and grinding each side of the edge until they meet is the surest way to create a perfect apex. Of course removing the burr is then equally important.
 
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So basically you're advocating for grinding off the shoulder of a V bevel, and continuing to thin that area as much as possible. That I am on board with. Doing so will increase the cutting performance of almost every knife on the market.

Yes, but in this context it is merely a beneficial byproduct of setting up the edge for a very narrow bevel which can be applied quickly. By making the critical phase of sharpening as short as possible we minimize opportunity for error and fatigue, and allow more attempts to be made speeding the iterative process of learning.

If a knife is already thin one may start with the critical sharpening phase, but if attempts go wrong the bevel will start to widen and one will need to thin to set up for a narrow bevel again.

Past that I'm not quite sure where you're going. Are you suggesting continuing to grind off the shoulder until you reach the apex? Or getting as close as possible then microbeveling the edge?

Ideally very close to the apex without actually reaching it, but a beginner will probably need to form a burr to know where he is and to confirm he hasn't been rounding the edge too much. If I make the apex ragged with 80 grit sandpaper it works against forming a clean and strong apex, so I'll "bread-knife" again after thinning, always using a soft, fine stone to minimize subsurface damage.

As stated I prefer a small but plainly visible "mini" bevel to a micro-bevel. If one has developed a steady hand and takes the thinning all the way to the apex the edge will be too weak with just a micro-bevel. Further a mini-bevel distributes force thereby reducing pressure which makes a better edge for anyone without the lightest feather touch.

But then you're also arguing against forming a burr? This I can not support. Apex formation is the crux of sharpening, and grinding each side of the edge until they meet is the surest way to create a perfect apex. Of course removing the burr is then equally important.

No, I am not. Rather I am advocating delaying formation of the burr until one is using finer abrasives to reduce subsurface damage.

Thank you for the opportunity to clarify these points.
 
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