EB Primitives Fire Piston

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I ordered (ebay) a Fire Piston from EBPrimitives a few weeks ago. I have had a chance to make many fires with this little beast and feel a full review is in order.

Customer Service:


I originally ordered the smaller piston (EB Primitives makes multiple kinds of fire pistons - Basic, Deluxe, and a shorty 'necker' version) and paid via paypal. I paid for this on Saturday morning and a few hours later I had an e-mail stating that it would ship that day because he was heading off to the post office.

I changed my mind and decided I wanted the deluxe version - I asked if I could send him the send the difference (about 10 bucks). I got an e-mail back from the seller saying that he missed the post offices closing time - would be happy to send me a deluxe version and because I had to wait - he would not charge me the extra. I was ecstatic.

Sure enough - Wednesday I got my fire piston in a HUGE envelope. It had a ton of stuff inside - I really didn't read the post and didn't realize how much stuff came in this kit. I was really excited.

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Opening the package:

1) Deluxe Fire Piston - with small leather lanyard and open cap to store tinder.

2) A Fire Piston Companion - a specially modified tin container with a matching wooden bottom - packed full with cedar bark.

3) Over 25 seals for the fire piston. (This seems like a lot - I don't think the seal will wear that fast - but the maker makes them himself and intends a lifetime supply).

4) A matching wood cleaning rod that is used for cleaning the piston and adjusting the seal.

5) A LARGE package of nice thick firecloth and a set of instructions.

6) A large baggie of cedar bark.

7) A small plastic container of grease for the fire piston (butter flavored Crisco). No - I didn't taste it.

8) A VERY complete set of instructions and a warning sheet - showing you how NOT to use the fire piston.

Craftsmanship: I was very happy with the over all appearance of this kit. In fact, I kept saying to myself 'Man - this guy has thought of everything'.

He includes little touches that are VERY well done for instance: he sets a string in the handle that allows you to close the piston when not in use and store it. This string allows air to slip past the seal and close the piston. He also included a little cut portion at the base of the piston that helps stop any lubrication from getting to the base of the fire piston.

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The kit matches, is well thought out and executed - I really liked the quality of the unit.

The Fire Piston:

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The exterior is made from a hard wood and stained dark. The cylinder is made from polished brass that is epoxied into the body of the fire piston. The piston itself seems to be made of oak and is drilled and tapped at the end to accept a specially modified screw that holds the charcloth.

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The top of the fire piston is bored out to accept charcloth and tinder and has a rubber cap that has a lanyard. This is well executed as well and allows for the piston to be slammed and not marr the surface you are slamming it on.

Dimensions:

The whole piston is 6.25 inches long by and inch wide.

The piston itself is: 5 inches long by .295 diameter and very smooth.

The brass insert is 3.5 inches deep and .303 diameter and very polished.

The cap has a 1 inch deep hole to hold tinder.

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The use of the kit:

Prepare the Fire Piston Companion. Put a little charcloth in the X of the companion and take off the cap of the companion. Fluff up a little of the tinder in the companion and set it close to you.

Use a little of lubricant and lube the piston. Be sure not to use anything highly flammable and do not get the lube on the end of the piston.

Put a little tinder in the tip insert it into the piston and slam it. Quickly pull out the piston and see if you have a little smoke in the charcloth. If so - give it a little blow and make an ember.

Insert the piston into the companion and set the charge cloth alight. A few light blows get the tinder companion a blaze - use this to light your fire. When you get your fire going. Put the cap on your companion to smother the flame and keep the rest of the tinder in good shape.

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If the piston does not fire - use the cleaner to clean the piston and insert fresh air to the base of the piston. Replace the charcloth and try again. Speed and quickness are the key.

I have had little problem getting this to light every time with a little practice and can get a good flame out of basic paper tinder.

Cost:

40 dollars shipped via paypal. The lesser versions are a bit cheaper - but come with less stuff.

Overall feelings:

I have had a lot of fun with this kit and would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone.


TF
 
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Not sure if I want one, but a GREAT review...got so I understood every bit of it.

Thank you.
 
Thanks for the praise. I have been writing reviews for the paintball industry for a time. This one I tossed together... not my best - but decent I think. ;)

TF
 
Now if someone designs a cross between a fire piston and a paintball gun, we know where to go for a review! :D But please don't shoot ME with it ...

Ya got me interested. I've used a fire piston before and seen a few others for sale. This one sounds like a best buy. Thanks!
 
Thanks for the review...it just cost me $40 to try it. I tried one that is nicer in asthetics than this one but required a wax type thread - probably dental floss and it work like a champ for a while - but you have to re-wrap the string all the time and fuss with it. This one looks easier - you didn't mention how to change out the seal but it appears to be a screw out/remove/replace/screw in situation. If so then it is better but the tradeoff is you could lose the screw in the field - not so good.

I'm out in the wild training this entire week so won't get it until I get back home next Sunday. Will chime in once I give it a whirl.
 
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Great write up. I actually have those on my watch list and was wondering about them. :thumbup:
 
Quirt,

Indeed the seal is replaced by removing the screw - taking out the old seal - and replacing it with new.

Although - I have created a dozen fires or so so far and the original seal works great - I haven't even had to adjust the seal yet.

Also, the tinder box is REALLY helpful. It works with bow drill REALLY well - I never get skunked once I have an ember in making a BIG ole' flame. I also have tested it with a blast match, and a fresnel lense and it sparks up like a champ. It would be really easy to make on your own - but I think it is kinda brilliant.

TF
 
Very nice review!
Thanks for taking the time to share such a comprehensive review.
That's really an excellent value as well.
 
I got mine a couple days ago. The tinder box us pretty sweet. It will surely become part of my fire kit.

It's a great piston for the price...but I still drool oner the cocobolo pistons Darrell Aune makes.
 
Ilbruchre,

I have reverse engineered that tinder box (not that it was that hard) and will put up a how to in a day or so.

I am glad you liked it. The guy who makes them seems really nice too.

TF
 
I bought the Deep Forest Version today. I hope the shipping to europe doesn´t take too long... Looks like a nice tool/toy.
 
Great review. I have one of his pistons and its awesome. I want to get one of those little 3 inch neck pistons.

It's a great piston for the price...but I still drool oner the cocobolo pistons Darrell Aune makes.
I have one of Darrell pistons. Beautiful piece. I would like to say though(and to be fair i am a big fan of darrells, I have on of his strikers a striker knife and a custom roach belly knife he made for me), I prefer the EB fire piston. Darrells piston is a piece of art, but I am afraid of breaking it(I did actually, which he fixed for free, it was my fault though). I have no fear when it comes to being rough with the EB piston. Its not as pretty so I am more abusive to it. Its a great piston, they both are. Plus the EB piston has the gasket seal string, and that is an amazing feature.

with fire pistons, do you have to use that specific fungus stuff or will it ignite just about anything?

You can use Chaga, char cloth and typical tinders, but some work better than others.
 
I have one of the coco bolo fire pistons. I ordered it with a matching tinder box designed to carry charcloth or other tinder.

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Both items thread nicely on a leather or chain necklace and can be worn around the neck or packed away with your fire kit.

Being a bit of a redundant guy I generally carry a lighter in my pocket, a firesteel necklace around my neck under my shirt and a fire piston, flint and steel, water proof matches in a fire kit along with a Ziplock bag of tinder.

Actually my firesteel is a string model and will NOT work without grease. I filled the coco bolo tinder box with Vasoline and I carry dry charcloth and fungus in a ziplock bag in my shirt or coat pocket.

As far as utility. I carry the dern thing because it works. I admit it is not the first thing I reach for to start a fire unless I am looking to impress a novice. When I get someone that think operating a firesteel makes me Mr. Wizard I can't help but whipping out the fire piston for the next fire. It always gets an UUHHH or an AWWWE or just a "Lemm me try that!" from the watchers.

:cool:
 
It's a great piston for the price...but I still drool oner the cocobolo pistons Darrell Aune makes

It just so happens I have an extra coco bolo fire piston and tinder container from Wilderness Solutions similar to the one above I bought for my son. He has expressed zero interest in it so if you want it I am sure we can work out a deal on some coco bolo for some osage. Especially if there is a Nessie pinned to it.

I can get you some pictures if you are interested.

;)
 
It just so happens I have an extra coco bolo fire piston and tinder container from Wilderness Solutions similar to the one above I bought for my son. He has expressed zero interest in it so if you want it I am sure we can work out a deal on some coco bolo for some osage. Especially if there is a Nessie pinned to it.

I can get you some pictures if you are interested.

;)


Sounds like a possibility. The prototype is actually being mailed to me tomorrow. Gonna check it out and tweak things if need be. :D

Pics are good. :thumbup:
 
Ill take some pics in the day light tomorrow. It's used but only for demos. Pretty wood and the little tinder box is cool to.
 
I got an e-mail from the maker of the EB pistons - he loves all the orders you guys have been pouring in - and is thanking me with a knife he is making. How cool is that? He told me it is in prototype and will have a surprise... I am excited.

TF
 
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