Ebay and their rules!

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1SKS

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Well looks like Ebay pulled the plug on our auctions once again.

Why?

Because we sell autos and butterfly knives on 1SKS!

We did not list them on their site but they have a rule that you can not link to a site that does. What a joke.

Here is the email I got from them.

Dear Michael E. Turber (ebay@onestopknifeshop.com),


eBay appreciates the fact that you chose to list your auctions:

387234569 1SKS Rare Spyderco / MOKI knife! No Reserve!
387235977 1SKS Rare Spyderco / MOKI knife! No Reserve!
387236790 1SKS Rare Spyderco / MOKI knife! No Reserve!
387237657 1SKS Rare Spyderco / MOKI knife! No Reserve!
387241105 1SKS 100% Legal SWITCHBLADE! NO RESERVE!
387242274 1SKS Emerson Commander with WAVE! No Reserve!
387243575 1SKS EDI Genesis 2! SWEET ACTION! No Reserve!
390938556 1SKS - Dragon Fantasy Dagger...NO RESERVE!
390943934 1SKS - Tactical Tanto Folder...NO RESERVE!
390948727 1SKS - Tactical / Utility Folder.NO RESERVE!
390951619 1SKS - Black Utility Folder.NO RESERVE!
390954619 1SKS - Utility Folder.NO RESERVE!
390983481 1SKS - EDI Genesis II. NO RESERVE!


with us. Unfortunately, your auctions were in violation of our policy on prohibited links. Specifically, you may not link to a site that contains items prohibited on eBay. Therefore, we have ended these auctions and all fees have been credited to your account.


Please view our guideline page for a better understanding of our auction policies and how they affect the way you list your items: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-list.html
For information on infringing, prohibited or questionable items, please view: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-items.html
For more information on why eBay has ended an auction, please visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-endauction.html


IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please be aware future incidents of this nature can lead to the suspension of your account. We value you as a member of our community and wish to continue this relationship, so we must ask you to refrain from any violations of the Listing Policies or User Agreement in the future.


We thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Please feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns you may have on our existing policies.


Regards,


Baxter R.
eBay Community Watch
7/24/00
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Here is my response!

Let's see how long these last!

<a href="http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=1stopknifeshop&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25">Click Here!</a>


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[This message has been edited by 1SKS (edited 07-24-2000).]
 
Don't get me started on eBay.... I don't think you have enough disk space for the rant that might result.

My suggestion to you is to make up some new business name, knivesLegalOnEbay.com, go to one of those free hosting places, and just put up a site that welcomes visitors and explains that to see the real stuff, they need to go to 1sks.com, but don't make that a link, just text. Sure, folks now have to type the URL, but eBay can't claim it as a link.

Boy, for years I have jokingly said that it's illegal to even think of a butterfly knife in California. I guess it's true. eBay does not allow listing of butterfly knives with blades in excess of two inches (and the two inch exception is a result of my explaining Cal law to eBay's lawyers). I am not aware that California law makes it illegal to discuss butterfly knives which is really all you're doing in posting a link to another site. This is sort of like suing Sports Illustrated because they ran an ad for the car that you bought which had a defective seat belt that resulted in your injury. You'd be holding SI responsible for something they had no part of. So how is eBay violating any law by happening to have a link to your page?

Oh well, as I say, don't get me started.

Ok, you got me started. I asked eBay's lawyers why they feel bound to apply California weapons laws to a transaction involving a seller in, for example, Idaho, and a buyer in, say, Oregon. Well, it's because eBay's equipment is physically located in California. So, don't you think that if Cal weapons laws apply, the Cal sales tax laws should also apply? They promissed to "look into that and get back to me." They never have.

eBay bends the law in other areas. You can sell beer on eBay, for example... as long as it's in a collectible can and the value of the item comes not from the beer, but from the can. So, by the same token, is not a $1500 Jody Samson kris balisong not so much a weapon but rather a collectible work of art? eBay considered this, but rejected it without comment.

Anyway, you got me started, and I'm holding back.

This is strange, since I use my website on eBay stuff just to generate interest and my website is an orgy of butterfly knives (over 380 pictures of butterfly knives, which, I will assert, makes it the internet's largest collection of butterfly knife pictures).

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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.balisongcollector.com

[This message has been edited by Gollnick (edited 07-24-2000).]
 
It took me awhile to make those auctions and they just deleted them. No warning, nothing. So ya I was pissed!

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Every knife from every major manufacturer. If you don't see it, don't worry we can get it.
www.onestopknifeshop.com
Call 1-800-956-4652 to Order
Call 1-904-739-3438 for INFO
We are currently building the world's largest web site for knives.
ALL SALES SUPPORT BLADEFORUMS.COM!
1SKS is a WOW company!
 
LOL Mike.
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You must have placed a bid in your cache because they are gone.

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Every knife from every major manufacturer. If you don't see it, don't worry we can get it.
www.onestopknifeshop.com
Call 1-800-956-4652 to Order
Call 1-904-739-3438 for INFO
We are currently building the world's largest web site for knives.
ALL SALES SUPPORT BLADEFORUMS.COM!
1SKS is a WOW company!
 
HA,HA,HA...That was a GREAT response, Mike!
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You make me proud to be a member of this Forum!.
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Dann Fassnacht
Aberdeen, WA
glockman99@hotmail.com
ICQ# 53675663
 
No. I got a confirmation from them. Item # 391436080. Maybe I'll get a notice from them later saying it is void.
 
Originally posted by bill boyd:
No. I got a confirmation from them. Item # 391436080. Maybe I'll get a notice from them later saying it is void.
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I just forwarded their confirmation to you at 1stop. If nobody outbids me, what exactly did I bid on?
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You're too funny
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The only way I could get my point accross was to create an auction. Of course nothing is for sale.

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Every knife from every major manufacturer. If you don't see it, don't worry we can get it.
www.onestopknifeshop.com
Call 1-800-956-4652 to Order
Call 1-904-739-3438 for INFO
We are currently building the world's largest web site for knives.
ALL SALES SUPPORT BLADEFORUMS.COM!
1SKS is a WOW company!
 
LMAO Mike,
Great chuckle for a rough day! What the hell is up with that Baxter R. stuff? Is it Ebay or a freakin' AA Meeting? Chuckle head is too scairt to put in his last name! In the great words of future president Bugs Bunny: 'What a maroon!'

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Shawn
 
I wish I thought it would do some good Ron. Thanks for the thought.



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Someone named webwolfcub just outbid me.
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In fact he bid on several things. I may bid again just to drive the price up.
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I have seen several items listed on E-bay that were also listed in their prohibited list. Someone had to report you to E-Bay for them to notice. I asked about an item months ago that was listed and the response I got was that the site was too big for them to police and they relied on people to report violations. I will have to check to see if I still have the e-mail.

Maybe that is why the dumped your auctions with a link while at the same time allowing an auction on a balisong. Do you really think the people at E-Bay took the time to reseach your link without someone first filing a complaint?

Just a thought.
 
I`ll bet your auctions would still be there if you hadn`t used the term "switchblade". Ebay will delete that every time, even if it is legal. Next time, call it an auto.
 
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