EDC a 77 (or how to devalue a collectors item)

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When I saw conversations starting up about the latest round of Northfield 77 Barlows, I just knew I had to have one. I won't go into detail about the buying process as it's been much discussed but I was fortunate to land my number one choice, brandishing desert ironwood covers.

Almost as soon as I placed my order I was struck with a dilemma I'm becoming too familiar with. Given the potential value, collectability, and beauty of the knife, how can I possibly use it as it was intended to be used? There is already one GEC knife in my possession which is barely carried...a stag 78 that has only opened mail...a trend I don't want to expand. Nothing wrong with collecting but I try to only buy knives I will use.

Posting in the 77 Barlow Impressions thread here in the Traditionals forum, I brought up the question of dealing with PKA (Pristine Knife Anxiety) and was not surprised to see others also suffer from this terriblr malady, where one is too enraptured with a shiny new knife to use it for more than Instagram photos. After reading a few relatable responses and not wanting to have such an awesome new acquisition stuck in blade purgatory, I made a declaration to use it ASAP. To up the ante, also do something I haven’t done in years- carry the knife as my EDC pocket friend for a month straight. There may be another knife occasionally alongside for heavy tasks but the 77 will pull most of the cutting duty. And, to commemorate my foolhardy endeavor to ruin a perfectly good collector’s item, why not post a thread to chronicle the affair? After all, who doesn’t love rambling, gratuitous threads with pictures of the same knife for page upon page?? Here she is...

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When the knife arrived it was greedily unboxed and every little nuance scrutinized, just like we all do. Covers? Looking great! Both blades centered? Check! Action? Needs flushing but snappy. Grinds? Uhhh- GEC.

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After admiring the 77 in its pristine state for a day or so and taking the obligatory “remember me when I was new” snaps, it went into immediate service. As promised, I steeled against the tragic forfeiture of several hundred bucks of flippage potential and dove right in! The first few uses were fairly innocuous…envelope here, fingernail there...mostly pen blade work. This morning, however, the proverbial bullet was bitten and the clip was used to the point of no return- slicing strawberries for the kid! I even left the knife, unwiped, on the cutting board for a good ten minutes to ensure the pool has been entered with both feet.

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This was followed by a full day of usual tasks. My pork chop lunch really sealed the deal- starter patina achieved. Surprisingly, no guilt thus far.

My initial thoughts are that there’s a solid reason this design is so sought after. Sure, the 77’s have become one of the most collectible traditionals being made today and command ridiculous prices on the secondary market but my belief is that at the core of the desire for these knives is that they check almost every box in the traditional pocket knife world. After a few days of use, the only thing I’d change is the height of the secondary blade, which is just a little too shallow. There just isn’t much blade flat to grab when pulling after half-stop. If I don’t pay careful attention my finger presses close to the edge and I get a feeling that it’s gonna bite me. But it sure is slicey!

That’s it for now. I’ll update when it seems appropriate and thanks for taking the time to read!

~Russell
 
Good for you, enjoy it in great health. The ironwood 77 is beautiful, I really wish I could have snagged one. I think the pattern begs to be used so you are doing the right thing. Thanks for the write up.
 
Carry it, use it, sharpen it, oil it and enjoy it. Every knife maker makes a knife to be used for what it's ment to do....cut.

I have used a couple of #77s. One with patina the other with a dinged up bolster and they sold for more than I paid for them ( to cover shipping & aalil profit) or traded for a couple of different sought after knives. They don't loose their value even with some patina.

Just remember this is something you can pass down to kids or grandkids. When your long gone they can hold it. It will bring them back to a specific and special time they had with you when you had to use the knife or remember you carrying it.

Love this idea, and will follow this thread close. My 77 is and will be a user. It rode in my front pocket while I worked around the property today. Wow the secondary is super sharp used it to cut some weed eater line. Back to shaving sharp after some time on the strop!
 
Glad it's being used and loved as it was intended to be.
I think that using it makes it more valuable than a "safe queen" down the road, because of the memories it will bring back.
 
Every knife maker makes a knife to be used for what it's ment to do....cut.
Even Frost Cutlery?
While I have not made the error of buying one since I was 7 or 8 year old, I do remember they were almost as sharp as the average butter knife out of the box, and would not hold an edge long enough to sharpen a single new No. 2 pencil.
 
In my opinion money is the single poorest form of evaluation for a knife's worth, because it is inherently quantitative and not qualitative; and, well, humans aren't very well suited to a quantitative measuring system. We make decisions based upon emotions and then try and rationalise them later on with logical apparatus, (come one don't deny it).

So to me, a knife doesn't gain in value when it's left in a tube (unless it's being preserved as a gift for someone at a later stage of their life, for instance). Rather the knife gains value when it gets used, when it gains little scars and dings of character. When each layer of its patina can speak to a day's fishing, or slicing fruit for your kids, for instance.
The fact that the qualitative and quantitative systems of valuing a knife seem to be inversely proportional to each other is immaterial. That knife right there has suddenly become infinitely more valuable.
 
Reminds me of when people *bought* things to use & enjoy :D (before eBay existed).

Nice lookin' knife!
 
Excellent start! And excellent write-up! Make sure to check in with updates.
I plan to update as frequently as I have something to say about the knife or the experience. Like I stated, I haven't carried a single knife for more than a few days in a long time. Carried a little Spyderco daily for years but once I got more deeply into the hobby and acquired more and more, I developed a daily rotation. Always been a fan of the one knife challenge threads and also the ones that give a longer term impression of one knife so why not do both? Can't recall who it was but someone did a similar thread not too long ago- I think the poster was carrying a 35 Churchill? Not sure. Anyway, recall really enjoying the post and thinking I would do the same thing one day- just needed the right knife.
Oh, by the way is your handle because of the Parks and Rec character? Because that's awesome if so
No, its rswanson for Russell Swanson. But you'll be pleased to know my dads first name is Ron. He's a fan of the show!

Thanks for kind words, folks. There is certainly nothing wrong with obtaining knives for the monetary value. I love looking at pics of folk's pristine collections- especially those who acquire entire runs of a particular pattern. I wholeheartedly agree that a knife is first and foremost a tool, good ones should be enjoyed through daily carry, and that a well used and much loved knife often holds much more value than one which sits in the safe.
 
I flushed the pivot with WD-40 and a quick toothbrush/hot water scrub. Ballistol to finish. Took it to a fine ceramic stone then a quick strop and now it's sharp!

The secondary is starting to wake up but is still a little lazy on the close. Hopefully that continues to improve with use. The clip is very snappy and it's pull isn't too different from my favorite 78. In my inexperienced opinion I'd put it around a 6.5. Seems my example is pretty much typical of many others' impressions of this run of 77s.

It's a fun knife to look at and to carry. Certainly feels like I'm carrying a much older knife. A few more pics as it hangs out for some morning chores.

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That really is a perfect blade combination. I refuse to partake in the mess of trying to attain one from folks who keep them rare to create that buzz. Not will i pay the inflated prices. Guess i won’t own one.

Yay for use! I use all mine.
 
When I saw conversations starting up about the latest round of Northfield 77 Barlows, I just knew I had to have one. I won't go into detail about the buying process as it's been much discussed but I was fortunate to land my number one choice, brandishing desert ironwood covers.

Almost as soon as I placed my order I was struck with a dilemma I'm becoming too familiar with. Given the potential value, collectability, and beauty of the knife, how can I possibly use it as it was intended to be used? There is already one GEC knife in my possession which is barely carried...a stag 78 that has only opened mail...a trend I don't want to expand. Nothing wrong with collecting but I try to only buy knives I will use.

Posting in the 77 Barlow Impressions thread here in the Traditionals forum, I brought up the question of dealing with PKA (Pristine Knife Anxiety) and was not surprised to see others also suffer from this terriblr malady, where one is too enraptured with a shiny new knife to use it for more than Instagram photos. After reading a few relatable responses and not wanting to have such an awesome new acquisition stuck in blade purgatory, I made a declaration to use it ASAP. To up the ante, also do something I haven’t done in years- carry the knife as my EDC pocket friend for a month straight. There may be another knife occasionally alongside for heavy tasks but the 77 will pull most of the cutting duty. And, to commemorate my foolhardy endeavor to ruin a perfectly good collector’s item, why not post a thread to chronicle the affair? After all, who doesn’t love rambling, gratuitous threads with pictures of the same knife for page upon page?? Here she is...

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When the knife arrived it was greedily unboxed and every little nuance scrutinized, just like we all do. Covers? Looking great! Both blades centered? Check! Action? Needs flushing but snappy. Grinds? Uhhh- GEC.

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After admiring the 77 in its pristine state for a day or so and taking the obligatory “remember me when I was new” snaps, it went into immediate service. As promised, I steeled against the tragic forfeiture of several hundred bucks of flippage potential and dove right in! The first few uses were fairly innocuous…envelope here, fingernail there...mostly pen blade work. This morning, however, the proverbial bullet was bitten and the clip was used to the point of no return- slicing strawberries for the kid! I even left the knife, unwiped, on the cutting board for a good ten minutes to ensure the pool has been entered with both feet.

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This was followed by a full day of usual tasks. My pork chop lunch really sealed the deal- starter patina achieved. Surprisingly, no guilt thus far.

My initial thoughts are that there’s a solid reason this design is so sought after. Sure, the 77’s have become one of the most collectible traditionals being made today and command ridiculous prices on the secondary market but my belief is that at the core of the desire for these knives is that they check almost every box in the traditional pocket knife world. After a few days of use, the only thing I’d change is the height of the secondary blade, which is just a little too shallow. There just isn’t much blade flat to grab when pulling after half-stop. If I don’t pay careful attention my finger presses close to the edge and I get a feeling that it’s gonna bite me. But it sure is slicey!

That’s it for now. I’ll update when it seems appropriate and thanks for taking the time to read!

~Russell

I flushed the pivot with WD-40 and a quick toothbrush/hot water scrub. Ballistol to finish. Took it to a fine ceramic stone then a quick strop and now it's sharp!

The secondary is starting to wake up but is still a little lazy on the close. Hopefully that continues to improve with use. The clip is very snappy and it's pull isn't too different from my favorite 78. In my inexperienced opinion I'd put it around a 6.5. Seems my example is pretty much typical of many others' impressions of this run of 77s.

It's a fun knife to look at and to carry. Certainly feels like I'm carrying a much older knife. A few more pics as it hangs out for some morning chores.

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Glad you decided to use it! It’s a beautiful knife — too beautiful to just sit around in a drawer, in my opinion, and it’ll look even better after a few years of good use. :thumbsup:

I’ve basically stopped using WD-40 around the house at all, and just use Ballistol instead. Among other things, it’s my go-to knife pivot degunker when necessary; then I just use mineral oil for regular maintenance.
 
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