EDC conceal carry fixed blade?

[killgar]

a bunch of nonsense...its called weapon retention, a quality holster and lots training with a good instructor. i practice with both hands, so yes, i can draw shoot and run a pistol with either arm. as for the suprise attack, be aware of your surrounding at ALL TIMES and dont put yourself in situations where you may be at a disadvantage. even if that means walking blocks out of your way to avoid walking down a dark alley.

a gun is a weapon, a knife is a tool....the most valuable option a gun will give you is the ability to back pedal and be able to defend yourself outside of arms reach. something a knife will never give ya.

Are you saying that it's impossible for a person holding a handgun to have that handgun taken from them or knocked from their grip? If yes, then I know many police officers who would disagree with you. Have you ever been hit in the hand with a crowbar, or steel pipe, or baseball bat while holding your handgun? Have you ever been hit in the face or head with such items while holding your handgun? Ever been tackled full-force and slammed to the ground while holding your handgun? How exactly do you train for such things? I know more than a few veteran cops who carry a knife for situations where they might have to fight to retain their handgun, or for situations where their gun gets stripped away from them. But what do they know.

Are you saying that your weapon retention capabilities are so great that no form of attack could cause you to lose your grip?

As far as being aware of your surroundings, I know that many people like to believe that they possess Jedi-like powers and that it is absolutely impossible for anyone to get the jump on them or ever get close enough to strike them, but those of us who live in the real world know that such powers do not exist. Sorry to burst that fantasy.

"don't put yourself in situations where you may be at a disadvantage"- What exactly does that mean? From what I see, violent attacks can happen anywhere at any time. Not too long ago some people were massacred in a movie theater, were they putting themselves at a disadvantage? And not long after that incident a bunch of people were massacred while worshipping at their religious temple, were they putting themselves at a disadvantage.

But hey, if your awareness of your surroundings is so great, and if you avoid putting yourself in situations where you would be at a disadvantage, why would you need to carry a gun at all?

 

[Humppa]

The Böker Plus Gnome is great for pocket carry.

Here´s a pic of mine, next to a GEC #73 Beaver Tail

Nice blade!

Kind regards

 

[woody d]

Are you saying that it's impossible for a person holding a handgun to have that handgun taken from them or knocked from their grip? If yes, then I know many police officers who would disagree with you. Have you ever been hit in the hand with a crowbar, or steel pipe, or baseball bat while holding your handgun? Have you ever been hit in the face or head with such items while holding your handgun? Ever been tackled full-force and slammed to the ground while holding your handgun? How exactly do you train for such things? I know more than a few veteran cops who carry a knife for situations where they might have to fight to retain their handgun, or for situations where their gun gets stripped away from them. But what do they know.

Are you saying that your weapon retention capabilities are so great that no form of attack could cause you to lose your grip?

As far as being aware of your surroundings, I know that many people like to believe that they possess Jedi-like powers and that it is absolutely impossible for anyone to get the jump on them or ever get close enough to strike them, but those of us who live in the real world know that such powers do not exist. Sorry to burst that fantasy.

"don't put yourself in situations where you may be at a disadvantage"- What exactly does that mean? From what I see, violent attacks can happen anywhere at any time. Not too long ago some people were massacred in a movie theater, were they putting themselves at a disadvantage? And not long after that incident a bunch of people were massacred while worshipping at their religious temple, were they putting themselves at a disadvantage.

But hey, if your awareness of your surroundings is so great, and if you avoid putting yourself in situations where you would be at a disadvantage, why would you need to carry a gun at all?

all of that can be said for a knife as well....and fyi, i carry a bug in an ankle holster. no jedi powers here, but i tend to pay more attention to wtf is going on than 99% of the people in my little world. its just one of those things they pound in your head when you take some classes on carrying a firearm. i dont sit with my back to the doors at resturaunts, if people are walking behind me down the sidewalk i cross the street, and i carry a surefire everywhere... most crimes occur in low lighting. i could go on and on of the ways i try and give myself the best shot of surviving a violent crime, but you get the idea. im just a guy trying to keep my family and myself above ground as long as possible.

and since you asked, i carry a gun because i can...its easier than carrying a cop....and all those horrible situations you mentioned (the movie theatre shooting for example) would and could have been stopped much sooner with a gun than a knife. body armor or not, if someone might have punched that ass in the chest with a few rds of .357 he very well might have been stopped sooner.
not saying that i would have been capable to have stayed calm and pulled it off in a scary situation like that, but there are people who can...and have.

 

[zcd]

I edc a MBC and kydex sheath, but definitely not for self defence. If you can't avoid the situation, you already carry a firearm and your next best choice would be a taser or pepper spray..

 

[woody d]

thats one nice knife zcd!

 

[stabman]

The Böker Plus Gnome is great for pocket carry.

Here´s a pic of mine, next to a GEC #73 Beaver Tail

Nice blade!

Kind regards

I have one of those too.
It's the only knife I have a lanyard on, because it gives a grip extension.

 

[zcd]

thats one nice knife zcd!

Can't keep it out of my hands haha. Word on the street is that the MBC is coming out with some more handle options soon..

 

[czombie]

Carry a Swiss Army knife as a tool. Carry a gun as a gun. Carry a 16oz ball peen hammer in a kydex shoulder rig (like I do) for close quarter work.

Carrying a ball peen hammer in a kydex shoulder sheath is a terrible idea....That immediately becomes a weapon and no longer a tool. Just because it's main function is a tool doesn't mean you can rig it up as a self defense item and be OK.

 

[woody d]

Can't keep it out of my hands haha. Word on the street is that the MBC is coming out with some more handle options soon..

i dont think id change a thing....functional and not overly flashy. just how i like em.

i will admit tho...im more of a leather sheath kinda guy.

 

[woody d]

Carrying a ball peen hammer in a kydex shoulder sheath is a terrible idea....That immediately becomes a weapon and no longer a tool. Just because it's main function is a tool doesn't mean you can rig it up as a self defense item and be OK.

id love to see the looks on the guys faces if i was to pack my 28oz estwing around the jobsite in a rig like that. LOL

 

[czombie]

id love to see the looks on the guys faces if i was to pack my 28oz estwing around the jobsite in a rig like that. LOL

LOL....You might see fear in their faces....or laughter...HAHA

Or better yet rig up your framing hammer on your strong side and your finish hammer on the other.

 

[Frisky]

We've been down this road before. If you close with an attacker, knife drawn, you've already lost. Pepper spray is the weapon to use to turn the tables on an attacker and create an opportunity to get away before YOU get shot or stabbed. It can also handle multiple attackers. A knife, only if you can't get away, comes into play as a last resort, every bit as lethal a weapon as a gun under the law. A knife can be a formidable weapon in a retreating defense. Not many bad guys are going to continue to pursue you when they just got hit in the eyes with spray and now have to face a blade. Forget the martial arts garbage. I successfully carry fixed blades as both neck knives and in shoulder rigs depending on my clothing. I also often carry an Endura, but a folder takes more practice to open quickly.

Joe

 

[stabman]

We've been down this road before.

Yes, yes we have.:foot:

 

[GMAHN]

I can't remember if this is a knife forum or a pepper spray forum. Whichever it is I think it's infested with people who would rather bend over and take it rather than fight for themselves.

 

[woody d]

personally i dont like pepper spray...a stiff breeze and you just might end up with a face full of your own spray.
that would definitely take you out of the fight and it would be self inflicted.

im a firm believer in punching the hydralics and then the electronics. of course that can be done with a knife, but id rather be using a firearm.
if i ever was involved in a crappy life or death situation my knives would be a last resort weapon....after i ran outta ammo

 

[czombie]

I can't remember if this is a knife forum or a pepper spray forum. Whichever it is I think it's infested with people who would rather bend over and take it rather than fight for themselves.

Pepper spray has been proven to be an extremely effective tool in self defense when used properly. It's a fact.

 

[jstn]

Haven't read through the thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but check out Raidops knives. I have a small edc knive from Raidops and it's by far my favorite fixed blade!

 

[Frisky]

You'll be bending over with a knife in the guts if you get stab-happy. The idea behind the spray is to keep space between you and an attacker and turn the tables in your favor so you can escape a bad situation. No sense standing around, engaging someone in hand-to-hand combat.

Joe

 

[killgar]

I think that options are always a good thing. Can't have too many options. Gun, knife, pepper spray, sounds like a good assortment of options to me. Some items work better in some situations than others.

I know cops who carry all three of those options AND MORE (taser, baton). Not every self-defense situation is a fight to the death or requires that you use lethal force. I can certainly see the advantage of non-lethal options. Nope, nothing wrong with options.

 

[Frisky]

I can agree with you killgar.

Joe