EDC Khukri?

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A lot of insomnia seems to have caused some overflowing ideas in Westfork's Grand Baby Chitlangi thread.

The idea was thrown of a small khukri, small enough to be EDCed (that's not even a word and I don't care :p )

You may have seen it, you may have looked only the first few pages (like I sometimes do, can't blame you), but I'll show you a little summary of what have been done.

Some sketches has been done by Magnum22, Jaiofspam and I... OK they made sketches and I had fun with Paint Shop Pro.

Bladite also bought some interresting ideas.

We did not agree on all, (finger ring or no finger ring, wide blade or thin blade), but here's what I would like to see, I'll let the others summarize their "vision" .

-Chiruwa handles like the baby BDC.
-Finger groove (index) like the kerambit (not the ring, the choil)
-Chitlangi blade: not too thin, not too big. I still think the kerambit's blade is a little wide for a EDC.
- Horn handle I love those.
- Kydex sheath: this could lower the production costs (and give Dan/Dave some work )
-Villager finish (satin). I don't like shiny EDCs.
- 7.5" OAL.

I then realized it could be a modified baby BDC. But actual BDCs are IMO too big to EDC.

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(this is an actual pic of a baby BDC I modified, poor quality I know)
 
Magnum22 started with a kerambit and have let his creativity make the work:

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To then diverge from the EDC idea, but still a very cool design:

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So, your toughts? What do you think about all of this?

Going back to my books, only 2 more exams!
 
kinda reminds me of one of my KSO's, 'cept the lanyard hole is a bit bigger in yorn.
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cybrok said:
So, your toughts? What do you think about all of this?

Going back to my books, only 2 more exams!
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What the design is moving towards is something like Dan K.'s kardas.

IMO, a fixed blade EDC that isn't SD oriented needs to be under 7" in total length just for ease of carry purposes. I carry a gun and multiple knives every day, and my experience is that if it isn't good for horizontal carry or in a pocket, or IWB, a larger knive won't get carried much.

My current fixed EDC is a little 3 finger knife with a short, stumpy blade. Its overall length is only 5.5 inches. I carry it in a verticle belt sheath, it's the only verticle sheath knife I have that is short enough in this configuration to hide under my usual carry garments. My larger fixed blades are almost all horizontal.

I like the way the concept is forming up, but I think the niche is almost filled with the Kumar Kardas and the baby this and thats, if only they came with more carryable sheaths. Like you said, though, that gives work to the entrepreneurs in our midst, however!

:thumbup:

Andy
 
all right, latest iterations. I'm not too crazy about this one, but here it is anyway. Changes include new fuller layout, stubby grip, cleaned up the jimping, shorter oal, and the guard was shaved.

edckhuks7.jpg



and then my non-him-imp is now flat ground, also cleaned up the jimping, added an edge, and i scanned it in black and white for that CAD look, and it sucks. pencil owns cad.
 
woops, let's try that second one again.

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60 seconds between posts...doot de doot de doot..
 
Magnum22 said:
all right, latest iterations. I'm not to crazy about this one, but here it is anyway. Changes include new fuller layout, stubby grip, cleaned up the jimping, shorter oal, and the guard was shaved.

edckhuks7.jpg



and then my non-him-imp is now flat ground, also cleaned up the jimping, added an edge, and i scanned it in black and white for that CAD look, and it sucks. pencil owns cad.
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I like this one, but I would use the line above the edge as the actual edge, and lose the finger grooves.

Nice work!

Andy
 
7.5" OAL with the blade significantly longer than the handle? I don't see how that works. Even a person with small hands is going to need at least a 3.5" handle for a fixed blade knife and 4-4.5" would be better.

Also, is there really any advantage to a forward curved khukuri style blade with a small blade of 4 inches or so?
 
This is a pretty cool thread with some awesome sketches. I just recently posted in another thread above this one which was basically about the same thing. It would be awesome to have an EDC H.I. blade. I would love to see a smaller version of my Chitlangi Bowie design, with the top guard removed and maybe 8.5 OAL. Here is a quick sketch I did in Photoshop,

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A curved blade, whether forward or upswept, will cut much more efficiently than a straight blade - the same amount of movement by the user will pull a lot more edge through your target. So it would prolly slash well, esp. with a pretty narrow edge profile.

That said, I'm not sure that a khuk shape would be my first choice for a small EDC knife, unless the curve was slight enough that the tip was still essentially in line with the handle, like most drop-point hunters. I use my EDC knives for much more mundane tasks than self defence, and find that other shapes work better for me in this size.
 
i have pistol designs too and if i put em online i know i'd hear this.

"you should chamber it in .45 auto, make it single action, give it a beavertail grip safety, and 5" barrel. make sure it has an internal extractor too."

get me? all these suggestions are good and sensible but i'm not trying to end up with a karda or baby foxy/bdc, hence my odd grips. Andy, i agree with you 100% about the kumar karda and baby's pretty much covering the edc bases and i had thought of that when i began sketching. i wasn't really interested in the new ultimate utility edc fixed blade. I was after an exagerration of some of my favorite kerambit features with a modern industrial twist. i never personally considered carrying any of the knives i just drew. performance, specifications, whatever else, were tossed to the wind. i just liked the idea of an extra broad curved blade. You might not even want to call these knives khuks.
 
Rich_S said:
Also, is there really any advantage to a forward curved khukuri style blade with a small blade of 4 inches or so?
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The look :D

A less scary hawkbill.

But I really consider carrying a HI blade as EDC, with my local laws, there are more chances to be in trouble with a folder that with a small fixed blade. (Thanks Canadian laws).

As for the lenght of the blade, I think it would fit normal hands if you add a finger groove, at least for the ones with smaller hands. My tiny musician hands for instance.
 
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that tickles my fancy. a lot :)

bladite
 
You see, that's the perfect example of what I was saying about my local laws:

I could be legally carrying a 12" AK on me, but I can't have one like that at home.

Who made that bali? Korth?
 
This thread (and the other one) are filled with some great ideas - love it!

I really like what you guys are thinking...perhaps with some tweaking it could evolve into something that H.I. really could produce, would be practical as an EDC, and look good too.


Here are my suggestions:

1 - blade length 3" min, 4" max
2 - kukri-shape
3 - fullers (at least 2)
4 - no more than 10 oz.
5 - no more than 3/16" thick at the spine
6 - flat handle slabs on a full tang
7 - canted, In-The-Waistband sheath (yes, H.I. sarkis can do this...just need a good drawing. ;))
8 - wide hollow ground bevel (like the kerambit)
9 - finger choil or guard or ring (just a matter of taste)
10 - jimping - can be done, but would need to be done right
11 - overall length of 7-8 in. max



I carry my own knife as my EDC (K-TUSK) and with an IWB sheath, it is quite comfortable and easy to draw. I'm positive it could be done in leather - just would need a good design.

I'll be happy to help out in any way I can.
 
Glad you like the idea :)

Just giving your support is a great help. Thanks.

But if you have time and want to sketch what you're talking about, would be good. Getting a knifemaker point of view on this would only be good.
 
I like the top one most...has the most potential, IMHO.

A few comments (just sayin' it like it is...)

The blade in the second post is too wide for practical carry and cutting - same with the first drawing in post #3.

For finger rings - you need a 7/8" hole. I've found that much bigger than 15/16" starts to feel too big on a small knife, and shouldn't go any less than 7/8". Same thing for finger choils.

Drawing #4 (in post #3) really appeals to me - except for the ring sizes (see above).


The knife in post #5 is very nice - something like that, but sized down would be great.

drawing in post #7 - the handle being "set back" from the tang makes it uncomfortable..and EDC is all about comfort.

I like the baby chit bowie idea (post #11) but would need a less-round handle to be easy to EDC. Tall oval (cross-section) is best.



Bladite - saw that Marlowe when it first came out...and yes, I'd love to have one too (Chuck's work is awesome!). And in case anyone is wondering...Korth does indeed offer a kukri balisong. ;)
 
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