The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is $300 $250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
How do you like the Lunada, if you don't mind me asking? I've got a Jumbo Versipack, and it's pretty great, but not quite big enough… and when the water bottle holder is full, the balance is off. Looking for a possible replacement.
Thanks!
B) iTP A1 EOS
$10-15 bucks cheaper than the 4Sevens Quark Mini 123!!! There's a post on CPF indicating it's practically the same light statwise (Go dig it up! I'm not enough of a flashaholic to explain the details.). The major differences between these two lights are the modes that are offered. With the 4Sevens offering, you get moonlight, SOS, strobe, and beacon modes. I don't think the last 3 modes are necessary FOR ME in an EDC role. SOS probably isn't necessary as I planned on using this as an EDC light. Help is just a phone call away! Or when that's too slow, my first aid kits are in the car and backpack. Strobe can't be accessed quickly enough to be used defensively. I'll admit that I overlooked beacon mode too quickly. I can definitely see this being used to mark an important location at night. However, my worries are mitigated as I've never had a situation where I thought I'd need a beacon. Moonlight mode is one that I have definitely found myself wanting a moonlight mode as the 1.5 lumen low mode on the iTP is just a tiny bit too bright. I've found it to kill some of my night vision if I'm using it against a white background. The next differences between the two would be physical. The 4Sevens offering has aggressive knurling. As you can see, I fixed the lack of knurling by adding some skateboard tape. Easy and cheap fix! One thing that the 4Sevens offering lacks is a pocket clip! I use the pocket clip on my iTP every day! I don't know why 4Sevens hasn't decided to put one on their light yet. One of the major downfalls I've found is that the iTP A1 EOS fails to function correctly if enough pocket lint, dirt, etc gets into the area under the O-ring. Sometimes it'll immediately switch modes or flicker if this is allowed to happen. I can't speak as to whether or not this holds true for the 4Sevens Quark Mini 123 but I imagine this is also true. Thus, this last argument is mute. Was it worth the extra $10-15? You decide.
"The 4Sevens offering has aggressive knurling. As you can see, I fixed the lack of knurling by adding some skateboard tape."
Wow, that's a lot of talking!
Unless you do LowMedHigh switches very quickly for two cycles, you will not tread into the Strobe, SOS and beacon modes. That alone makes it worth it for me, as my Nitecore D11 cannot access Low or High Mode right away.
Low->Medium->High->Low->Medium->High->Strobe->SOS->Beacon Hi->Beacon Low
If it doesn't come perfect from the manufacturer, sure, anyone can fix it. But ask yourself, would you rather that it came perfect right from the start?
There are basically 4 choices to 4Seven's Mini line. There's a Preon I for a single AAA Battery, Mini AA, Mini 123 and a Mini CR2. That is variety and dedication, as every person prefer a special dimension/design. They also carry a Titanium version for each and every Mini Model.
10 year warranty. This speak volumes, I'm sure most would agree.
American based Customer Service with representatives on the phone.
A forum member recently had a problem with his Mini AA, he spoke to 4Sevens and returned the light and paid the difference for another of their lights.
I also had a little issue to pick on 4Seven's Preon 2. The anodizing had a different color on the head compared to the body. I spoke to them and returned it, had my full refund back.
What would you do when your iTp light goes out? Would you still be preaching how good it is when it worked?![]()
Could not agree with this more. I bought a total of 3 and had a problem with one of them. It would sometimes click into the next mode if you hit the casing too hard. Seeing as how I didn't want to send it back to China, I'll just live with it. As for it going out, I can't preach about that yet. Only time will tell. I haven't heard of any reports on CPF indicating it'd completely fail to function so I think I still have time. I'd still preach about it being a great alternative to the Quark Mini 123.
Paramilitary 2. How you liking it?
FWIW the knurling on my quark 123 is visible but not very aggressive or grippy.B) iTP A1 EOS
$10-15 bucks cheaper than the 4Sevens Quark Mini 123!!! There's a post on CPF indicating it's practically the same light statwise (Go dig it up! I'm not enough of a flashaholic to explain the details.). The major differences between these two lights are the modes that are offered. With the 4Sevens offering, you get moonlight, SOS, strobe, and beacon modes. I don't think the last 3 modes are necessary FOR ME in an EDC role. SOS probably isn't necessary as I planned on using this as an EDC light. Help is just a phone call away! Or when that's too slow, my first aid kits are in the car and backpack. Strobe can't be accessed quickly enough to be used defensively. I'll admit that I overlooked beacon mode too quickly. I can definitely see this being used to mark an important location at night. However, my worries are mitigated as I've never had a situation where I thought I'd need a beacon. Moonlight mode is one that I have definitely found myself wanting a moonlight mode as the 1.5 lumen low mode on the iTP is just a tiny bit too bright. I've found it to kill some of my night vision if I'm using it against a white background. The next differences between the two would be physical. The 4Sevens offering has aggressive knurling. As you can see, I fixed the lack of knurling by adding some skateboard tape. Easy and cheap fix! One thing that the 4Sevens offering lacks is a pocket clip! I use the pocket clip on my iTP every day! I don't know why 4Sevens hasn't decided to put one on their light yet. One of the major downfalls I've found is that the iTP A1 EOS fails to function correctly if enough pocket lint, dirt, etc gets into the area under the O-ring. Sometimes it'll immediately switch modes or flicker if this is allowed to happen. I can't speak as to whether or not this holds true for the 4Sevens Quark Mini 123 but I imagine this is also true. Thus, this last argument is mute. Was it worth the extra $10-15? You decide.
FWIW the knurling on my quark 123 is visible but not very aggressive or grippy.