I think this is a very valid point. While I use my EP a lot, there are times when I enjoy using benchstones for the sake of using them. Sometimes it's nice to do it without any help. I should also note that the EP really helped my freehand sharpening, as now I know what it is that I'm shooting for at each stage.I'm glad you re read my post. The EP is NOT a bad system, in fact I think it's a great system for anyone who wants mirrored/even bevels and can't sharpen freehand. It's great in that you can take someone off the street and within a few hours have them sharpening like a pro. Not many systems offer those results. The whole thing is just not for me, but I enjoy taking my time and sharpening.