educate me on mad dog knives?

Midget

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every so often i see mad dog knives for sale on some custom/semi custom retailer websites. they generally charge an exuberant premium for the knives, all of which, to me, seem rather simplistic and unremarkable designs. is there something i'm missing about mad dogs? or does MD have a "following," similar to strider/crk/emerson/busse?


i'm just wondering. are there mad dog forums or informational websites i can learn from? i can't find an actual, official, mad dog website.

thanks.
 
On Tactical Forums there is a Mad Dog forum.

Yes, MD has a following like CRK, Emerson, Strider, Busse, etc.

Mad Dogs are very good knives with exceptionally well designed handles. I would not pay the premium that is being asked for these knives, but if you want one at MD's price you are going to have a very long wait.
 
Midget said:
every so often i see mad dog knives for sale on some custom/semi custom retailer websites. they generally charge an exuberant premium for the knives, all of which, to me, seem rather simplistic and unremarkable designs.

The really high prices generally are usually due to something unique about the knives like being part of a special run made for the SEAL's. McClung's knives were origionally heavily promoted based on his self-created reputation as a professional soldier (among other things) and strongly hyped by the owner of Knifeforums at that time Earl Stewart and by McClung himself who moderated several forums on Knifeforums. Stewart was a dealer for McClung and claimed for example that an ATAK could out chop a Cold Steel khukuri, Busse Battle Mistress, etc. . Busse himself called him on the Battle Mistress story because at the time he had only released a few prototypes for evaluation and knew where they all were. The claim was retracted after a fairly intense flame war on recdotknives.

The knives themselves have clean designs, often praised for their "balance" which just means the center of mass is close to the grip. They are made from spine drawn O1 with partial hidden tangs in highly contoured G11 grips. I like the general design, the steel has durability issues as does the warrenty. Yes he has a following, similar to Strider both in intensity and general attitude. The makers also have a near idential reaction to critism of their knives. McClung currently resides on on :

http://www.tacticalforums.com/


-Cliff
 
Wow, that was very diplomatic Cliff. I wouldn't cross the street to pick up free MDs even if allowed to immediately turn them around to the fanboyz for cash.

Sometimes a smell warns you off. To one degree or another, all of these overtly tactical marketers have a whiff of something else besides danger and adventure to them.
 
Yeah, the way over the top extreme promotion is amusing at best, assuming you realize it is nonsense. His constant rants about Mick Strider's background is kind of amazing when his own tales of adventure are hardly centered in reality. He also has no problems attacking the methods and steels used by other knifemakers even when their knives have no problems severely outperforming his, but logic and consistency was never one of his strong points. It was likely his imagination which lead to him being recruited by the CIA to build electic rifles while he was in elementary school. He did get around, trained large animals in a zoo, worked as a professional soldier, was a rocket scientist, hit man for the CIA, on the run from drug lords, etc. . Kind of ironic with all of that he can't figure out how to make differentially tempered O1 less brittle than through hardened D2.

-Cliff
 
Kind of ironic with all of that he can't figure out how to make differentially tempered O1 less brittle than through hardened D2.

BA-ZING!!!

Well said.:thumbup:
 
He did get around, trained large animals in a zoo, worked as a professional soldier, was a rocket scientist, hit man for the CIA, on the run from drug lords, etc. .

Dang, he had the same career path as me, except I was a circus clown and professional mime for a decade or so. Maybe I should start making knives?
 
Tread carefully on his forum they can really be ra-ra for the home team at times. I learned the hard way.
 
I’ve had the opportunity to buy a couple of Mad Dogs, and have been more than happy to avoid the sycophantic circus that revolves around them and their maker.
 
Midget said:
every so often i see mad dog knives for sale on some custom/semi custom retailer websites. they generally charge an exuberant premium for the knives, all of which, to me, seem rather simplistic and unremarkable designs. is there something i'm missing about mad dogs? or does MD have a "following," similar to strider/crk/emerson/busse?


i'm just wondering. are there mad dog forums or informational websites i can learn from? i can't find an actual, official, mad dog website.

thanks.

Midget - this looks kinda sorta like a Mad Dog Knives website

http://www.streetpro.com/mdk/index.html

what do you think?
 
i'm not trying to open the can of worms here.

i'm genuinely interested in MD knives.

to be honest with you, i'd never looked into mad dog knives until today. and i've never been to the "tactical forums" or heard anything about the fanfare associated with it.

but i guess now i know.

thanks for the heads up, everyone. and rifon2, thanks for the link.
 
Midget: As you had so mentioned earlier as one being " genuinely interested".
THIS is THE link for all raging puppies
-http://maddogknives.net/e_index.htm-
You'll probably have all the answers you could possibly want posted there. That, and personal Q'nA sessions at tactical forums with the top dog himself.
Bark twice if you are ready to walk the walk.
Otherwise a friendly wag would suffice.
 
Paul1967 said:
Tread carefully on his forum they can really be ra-ra for the home team at times. I learned the hard way.

i dont know whos the biggest bully, mad dog or mrs mad dog lol, i really dont, really vindictive imho.
 
A collage of statements by McClung that I don't agree with, directly from the horse (dog) mouth:

"Held in high esteem by the heat and beat crowd, 52100 was designed for use in ball bearings. Ball bearings are very hard and have no sharp edges. You figure the rest out."

"A2 is popular ...... but by the time the temper is drawn to give it decent toughness, the abrasion resistance is low. "

"D2 is 12+% chrome, with gobs of carbon. It is relatively stain resistant, and not too expensive. It has great abrasion resistance at high hardness, but again it suffers from very low toughness."

"I have only seen one knife made of ATS-34 that cut really well. It was a Chris Reeve Sebenza. Since then I have seen other Sebenzas that did not cut well. "
 
"Held in high esteem by the heat and beat crowd, 52100 was designed for use in ball bearings. Ball bearings are very hard and have no sharp edges. You figure the rest out."
:jerkit: :rolleyes: :jerkit:

Who is this guy? A high rent Lynn Thompson's CIA trained brother?

I guess BG-42 sucks for knives too. :rolleyes:
 
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