:eek: It's That Time Again! (See Post 36)

Some great finds there Jack, love the old pruner. That "loveless" style RR hunter is a really great knife. I've had a few over the years and they are the real deal as far as skinning is concerned. I loaned a new one to a friend who was hunting my land, he skinned out two Deer on the original edge, then stropped it on his pant leg to do the third.
Makes a great kitchen knife as well.

Best regards

Robin
 
My new word of the day to look up: ‘fettling’

It's always fun to see what's on your table, Jack. And I'll agree with everyone on that Saynor. Beautiful find!
 
Pipeman said:
Some great finds there Jack, love the old pruner. That "loveless" style RR hunter is a really great knife. I've had a few over the years and they are the real deal as far as skinning is concerned. I loaned a new one to a friend who was hunting my land, he skinned out two Deer on the original edge, then stropped it on his pant leg to do the third.
Makes a great kitchen knife as well.
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Thanks Robin, that's a good recommendation on the RR my friend :thumbup:

r8shell said:
My new word of the day to look up: ‘fettling’

It's always fun to see what's on your table, Jack. And I'll agree with everyone on that Saynor. Beautiful find!
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Thanks a lor r8shell :)

I'm not sure you'll be any the wiser from this, but...http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fettle

Hope you're in fine fettle yourself :thumbup:
 
There is a good size town in southern central PA called Hanover, it's sister town is Hanover in Germany, or at least that's what the signs say on the town line.

Anyway, this thread only serves to get my wanderlust going. I haven't had a jaunt north to Hanover in some time. Maybe not since November, or earlier. There are two antique stores in town that have yielded quite a few old knives, at great prices and in good condition too. A member of my Facebook group Slipjoint Addict, that salvages old knives and makes new ones out of the blades and springs, has given me a few ideas. With the knives I find and the knives Jack sent me, and my little brother wanting to use burl woods to craft knife scales, I have been reinvigorated to tackle some knife work.

Ne'er more will I overlook advertising or old beat up knives. These are project blades!
 
silenthunterstudios said:
There is a good size town in southern central PA called Hanover, it's sister town is Hanover in Germany, or at least that's what the signs say on the town line.

Anyway, this thread only serves to get my wanderlust going. I haven't had a jaunt north to Hanover in some time. Maybe not since November, or earlier. There are two antique stores in town that have yielded quite a few old knives, at great prices and in good condition too. A member of my Facebook group Slipjoint Addict, that salvages old knives and makes new ones out of the blades and springs, has given me a few ideas. With the knives I find and the knives Jack sent me, and my little brother wanting to use burl woods to craft knife scales, I have been reinvigorated to tackle some knife work.

Ne'er more will I overlook advertising or old beat up knives. These are project blades!
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Happy Hunting Dan :)

I used to drink in a pub in Sheffield called The Hanover! ;)

Let me know if you ever need anything else to work on pal :thumbup:
 
You always find the most interesting variety of knives, Jack! I also admire that you even have a place for the ones that have one foot in the junk pile. A couple of those Richards I would not give a second glance at, but it is clear you see the beauty in them all.

I especially like the kitchen knives or even the folders with the stamped Sheffield etches in them.

Thanks for sharing ALL of these.

Glenn
 
Jack;

Cleaning under scales is a chore. You need an unltra sonic tank, makes it easier. Only problem I've found is some of the early materials don't do well in the tank (guttapercha comes all apart).

Love the "Scout" knife!

You're certainly doing a lot more "finding" than I have lately. Must be time for a road trip...
 
Jack Black said:
Happy Hunting Dan :)

I used to drink in a pub in Sheffield called The Hanover! ;)

Let me know if you ever need anything else to work on pal :thumbup:
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I showed those knives to my little brother, and a few other "projects" I've gotten, including a big Case XX jack with almost rotted wood handles, but excellent walk and talk, the pen blade is as big as what's left of the main blade. Anyway, I told him that you sent me those knives, with the promise of more if I can salvage them. He really likes balisongs, but other than that, a knife is a tool to him. He appreciates fine craftsmanship, but he will put a knife through it's paces. He was quite excited about these though, and told me, well, let's get them finished! I'm going to work on getting some tools together, and clear a place in the basement, set up a worktable and get started on taking them apart. My bad eyesight, temper and fudge fingers, coupled with his temper that runs in the family, should make for an entertaining jaunt into knife restoration.

By the way, they missed the boat at that pub. Come get a hangover at the Hanover! Well, maybe not the best advertisement.
 
glennbad said:
You always find the most interesting variety of knives, Jack! I also admire that you even have a place for the ones that have one foot in the junk pile. A couple of those Richards I would not give a second glance at, but it is clear you see the beauty in them all.

I especially like the kitchen knives or even the folders with the stamped Sheffield etches in them.

Thanks for sharing ALL of these.

Glenn
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Thanks Glenn :) I DO buy far too many junkers - particularly considering my very limited restoration skills! :eek: I just HATE to pass on anything, but I'd be better off being more discerning and saving up my money! :o

I hear you on the Richards knives my friend, they're certainly not always worth buying, the same for some of the others! :D In this case, the miniature was given to me by a market trader, the first Scout (and the Pradel) came as part of a package with a Joseph Rodgers Stockman, which is currently out of my possession, the two Sleeveboards were £2 each, and the second Scout came with the Elliot. I've just realised I didn't post a pic of the second Scout! Doh! I'll rectify that now ('now' plus an hour to upload the pic as it's turned out :grumpy:)! Sorry for the confusion folks :o



eisman said:
Jack;

Cleaning under scales is a chore. You need an unltra sonic tank, makes it easier. Only problem I've found is some of the early materials don't do well in the tank (guttapercha comes all apart).

Love the "Scout" knife!

You're certainly doing a lot more "finding" than I have lately. Must be time for a road trip...
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Thank you sir, and thanks for the tip on the guutapercha! :) Whatever was under the scales of that Butler, it was so hard, I thought it was metal at first! :D I still haven't cleaned it thoroughly. Happy hunting! :thumbup:

silenthunterstudios said:
I showed those knives to my little brother, and a few other "projects" I've gotten, including a big Case XX jack with almost rotted wood handles, but excellent walk and talk, the pen blade is as big as what's left of the main blade. Anyway, I told him that you sent me those knives, with the promise of more if I can salvage them. He really likes balisongs, but other than that, a knife is a tool to him. He appreciates fine craftsmanship, but he will put a knife through it's paces. He was quite excited about these though, and told me, well, let's get them finished! I'm going to work on getting some tools together, and clear a place in the basement, set up a worktable and get started on taking them apart. My bad eyesight, temper and fudge fingers, coupled with his temper that runs in the family, should make for an entertaining jaunt into knife restoration.

By the way, they missed the boat at that pub. Come get a hangover at the Hanover! Well, maybe not the best advertisement.
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Keep me posted Dan :) :thumbup:

Yes, it was known locally as The Hangover! Certainly accounted for a few of mine! :D
 
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I've talked with a couple booth owners and market workers over here, and they are lamenting the fact that there aren't any more collectors out there for older knives. I've had the same discussions with older collectors, I believe Carl told me I was one of the youngest guys at the knife show we went to last year, mainly traditional blades, and I'm 35! It is good to see younger folk at shows, but I don't see them haunting the junk malls and antique malls.

One hand openers and black knives are considered "scary" out here, even in the rural areas. Slipjoints and old timey knives are respectable, and if you don't wave them about like an idiot, other patrons will show you their knives, and might even sell their old knives (most wouldn't take a fortune for their old knives). You live in an area famous for knives, and still filled with working artisans that make knives. However, I know you have mentioned that there are less and less knives at many of these spots, and even less collectors out and about.

I would love to take you on a tour of southern York and Adams counties in PA over here man. Literally dozens of great knives out here and plenty of places to grab a good meal. I need to start taking pics of my go to spots. My brethren that hunt the same spots might take umbrage with that, but they'll get over it.
 
I see a small number of other collectors going round the local markets here Dan, and believe it or not I'm the youngest! :eek: :D Often they are guys that had some connection to the cutlery trade in the past, retired guys with time on their hands. I've met some nice folk :)

That sounds fantastic Dan, I would love it. Maybe one day my friend :) :thumbup:
 
Sorry to be so late with reactions to your fascinating thread, Jack; I read it soon after you posted, but work has been crazy this month (and promises to continue that way until May), so I don't have time to post as often as I'd like. :(

Your original post reminded me of a line in the old Eagles song, "Desperado": "It seems to me some fine things have been laid upon your table …" ;) Like many others, I thought the stag scout, the Vendetta, the Saynor were all very cool. :cool::cool:

I've been contemplating obtaining a Rough Rider "HalfHawk" like the Coal Miner series version you pictured. Have you used/carried that knife much? Any additional comments on its fit, finish, performance???

I was especially interested in the sharpening steel. The accompanying paper claimed "No Skill required"; that's the kind of equipment that appeals to me!! :D:eek::D

- GT
 
Thanks GT, I hope work doesn't get any crazier between now and May, that's still a fair way off.

I was thinking of:

Desperado, you need to come to your senses...
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...and stop buying so many knives! :D

I got two of those RR "HalfHawk"s, the Coal Miner, and another which was exactly the same, but with smooth tobacco bone covers and an acorn shield, and cost slightly less. I'd say the latter knife, also without the etch of course, was even nicer. I gave it away, but will probably buy another. The fit and finish couldn't really be better, everything about it is really good, and at an incredible price. It's only my love of carbon steel that has stopped me slipping the knife straight into my pocket, but I will certainly carry it. I think it's the nicest RR I've had, and they've all been pretty good :thumbup:
 




Don’t worry folks, I haven’t had ALL this stuff piled up on my kitchen table since my last session – At some point, I had to move some of it off! :D However, I’ve already given a few items away already too. As today is still part of the Easter holiday here in Britain, I figured it might be a good day to clean some of it up a bit, and sort it out. As luck would have it, I’d barely got started, when the sun came out, and turned an otherwise dull day into our first ‘scorcher’ (well that’s how it feels with the sun streaming through the kitchen windows anyway) :grumpy:

First order of business was to parcel up the corkscrews, which I bought for another member here. They’re now packed up and will go in the post tomorrow :thumbup:







This big old Spearpoint is cheaply made, but despite the rust I don’t think it’s been used much, just badly stored. It’s a nice enough item I think, and the steel sharpened up OK. A cursory search revealed little about the ‘Empire’ tang-stamp, which obviously isn’t the US Empire, more likely to be Hong Kong I think. I could resist buying the hammer either ;)



Cheaper still was this Pallades friction folder, but it’s certainly very slicey!















This well-used old knife was hiding in the bottom of a £1 bin of rusty old tools in my local market. Looks to me like it’s either been re-bladed or perhaps made up by an old cutler out of leftover parts. The blade bears the name of Rawson Brothers of Sheffield. The wee hammer is a vintage toffee hammer I picked up in a different market.



These two are the latest additions to my collection of ‘tinies’. The Jesus knife was made in Germany by Elasi.







Also from Germany is this rather nice Palo Alto MOP Penknife.







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My Grandmother and Great Grandmother both spent time on the shop floor of Chestermans of Sheffield, and I generally look out for Chesterman items, particularly Ruler Knives like this one, made by Joseph Westby of Sheffield. Knives like this were very often advertising knives, in this case for a maker of artificial leather cloth, which among many other things, was used to cover the seats of London buses.















I’ve already shown this Lady’s Knife in the Old Knives sticky, if you want to read more about its history (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/527126-quot-Old-Knives-quot?p=14637564#post14637564). I think it must have been a very special knife to its original owner, possibly a wedding present. It looks like the lovely worked back would have originally been gold-plated.

















Though around the same size, this second old girl has seen a harder life, and is now in a very delicate condition, with one of the springs nearly shot. The tang stamps say something, but what it actually is is beyond me I’m afraid.



This Victorinox Excelsior still needs a scrub with a hard-bristled brush!



A couple of humble Richards knives.



And a possibly even humbler knife with a broken corkscrew.





I’ve picked up a few bits of table cutlery, and ADEE gave me a Herbert Robinson butter knife, with their famous Sheffield grinder mark.



Lots of other items I couldn’t resist! I remember the 555 brand of cigarettes being introduced here in the mid 1970’s with a big advertising campaign. I imagine this lighter was part of the campaign. Everything else is going to have to wait for another day though, as I’m exhausted, and in need of a beer ;)

Jack
 
Wotsa "Toffee Hammer"?

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Great collection of Stuff, Jack.

Good luck with the diaspora. :D

~ P.
 
That's quite a full table you've got there, Jack. Even after sending a few "bits & bobs" my way. A package came today, too late to take any pictures, but I'll post a few pics later in the week. Some very neat pieces, indeed. Thank you.
 
The table is filling up again with some really cool items, Jack. I dare not say I like any of them lest you send them to me too;) I still have some pictures to take of more treasure Jack sent me!! Great stuff, Jack!
 
I really love your interesting and informative posts Jack. Such a fascinating bunch that gathers around your kitchen table. :)
 
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