EK Knives Aussie Bowie

MelancholyMutt said:
Yes, Thomas, the point IS that Stewart somehow, does NOT have the full right to use the Ek trademark. his knives are thus marked EK, expedition knives and would pass as an Ek knife to the casual observer or novice (why not call them bark river knives).

It's funny that if a white guy in the midwest clones a knife and sells it with a name that is deceptively close to another trademarked name, it's a matter of business, and if someone in China or Japan makes a clone, then they are evil and thieves.

Thomas, not many people want to defend Stewarts position because they are not as stellar and pure as they make themselves out to be and arguing with them is a lost cause. Being an avid Ek collector, I've followed the story since it started way back so I'm not gonna buy any b*llsh*t story...
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I gather that you classify Mike Stewart as "evil" and a "thief." I have absolutely no reason in my knowledge or experience to accept your version of the facts vs. Mike's statements. Hopefully, I am not a "lost cause." Maybe if I knew you better. Maybe if I was an "avid Ek collector." Maybe if I had perfect knowkledge of all things. I am but a khukuri collector with slight knowledge of things EK -- and this is a khukuri forum. There might be a more appropriate place than Uncle Bill's forum to indict another manufacturer.

Tom
 
This is not the HI forum -- it's the general Blade Discussion Forum.

You're not the first to get confused about which forum you're in, though; in fact I've done it myself.
 
Thomas Linton said:
I gather that you classify Mike Stewart as "evil" and a "thief." I have absolutely no reason in my knowledge or experience to accept your version of the facts vs. Mike's statements. Hopefully, I am not a "lost cause." Maybe if I knew you better. Maybe if I was an "avid Ek collector." Maybe if I had perfect knowkledge of all things. I am but a khukuri collector with slight knowledge of things EK -- and this is a khukuri forum. There might be a more appropriate place than Uncle Bill's forum to indict another manufacturer.

Tom
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tom, you seem like a niec guy... and rather a good egg for defending whom you think to be someone who's been victimized... You don't have to accept my version... Well, it's not even really my version... just what I gathered to from a series of accusations thrown between two warring factions from long ago. They're old wounds that really should not be reopened. All I can really say is that the Stewarts are not as stellar and clean as they make themselves to be... As for calling them thieves and evil, you're experiencing what is a reading comprehension problem... I'm not calling anyone evil or thieves... I'm calling you, and many others on the forums racists and anti-asian.
 
MelancholyMutt said:
tom, you seem like a niec guy... and rather a good egg for defending whom you think to be someone who's been victimized... You don't have to accept my version... Well, it's not even really my version... just what I gathered to from a series of accusations thrown between two warring factions from long ago. They're old wounds that really should not be reopened. All I can really say is that the Stewarts are not as stellar and clean as they make themselves to be...

As for calling them thieves and evil, you're experiencing what is a reading comprehension problem... I'm not calling anyone evil or thieves... I'm calling you, and many others on the forums racists and anti-asian.
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Mutt,

OK, now we're clear. I have reading comprehension problems. I (and many others on this forum) am rascist and anti-asian. (I'll call Saho in to read this. She will be SO amused.)

Any other names/labels you'd like to throw around?

No chance of confusing you with a "niec" guy, Mutt.

Tom
 
Well I went and bought the night Fighter from E G Russel, they were out of the commando, 1/4 inch A2 at a bargain price, I'll be interested to see how it goes.
Mutt, as to the other, I don't go into the Community Centre much, as in Whine and Cheese etc, nor am I a gold member so I don't go into the Pirates Cove say..I do go into the reviews and general etc a lot so all I can say is that within my (possibly limited) experience I disagree that MANY members are racists and anti-Asian. I'm sure some are, I'm sure some are many things which is as it will be in any large and diverse group.
I myself have all the bases covered as I am racist, classist and sexist. (joke)
However, I note anti-social types are quickly howled down by the moderators (who do a good job) and even more importantly, by the members, who do an equally good job. If the anti-socials really had power or even significant numbers here this board would have an entirely different flavour.
Thanks, Rod.
 
ah rod, it's quite easy to say racism is over and done with, or that there is just one type of racism, which we commonly know is the type that hangs people from the closest branch or firebombs religious structures... That kind of racism is fine and dandy... I can deal with that type. The type is the covert and subliminal type... what many sociologists called "enlightened racism". Ideas and attitudes that act as if racism is really over and standards that exist for one person and not another. The point here is that one person is defending someone for an act that would have been a crime if committed by someone racially different. Granted, the accusation is directed at the general bladeforums population embodied by the Linton guy. Take for example, the Taiwanese company that several years ago made knockoffs of Strider Knives. Now, I don't think Strider copyrighted those designs so copies were made and marketed under Linton Knives. The Bladeforums community came down very hard on them and made their time at the NYCKS very difficult. Now, Stewart made some Ek copies and used the Ek name during a time where the debate is that he did not legally posess the license and the reaction is that it's "only business". Not only that, there's reviews and pics of Bark River made Ek's on the forum. I don't know how the community justifies it... (keep in mind, at the point of Expedition Knives' existance, Stewart already knew he had no right to the Ek name as if he had, or felt he had, he would have just marked it Ek)
 
So now the "general bladeforums population" are "racist." You are a real trip, Mutt. Really enjoy calling names, do you? It must be so nice to be in a position to judge a population. :rolleyes:
 
Not names, groups of people is an entity and tend to exhibit a collective character... If the shoe fits, then wear it. Those who share the value, and those who are silent against the collective will, are essentially to blame...
 
I think the confusion in this thread isn't caused by unconscious racism; I think it's caused by just plain unconsciousness or cluelessness. In general, though, I've often noticed some people seem to get much more upset about Asian knock-offs than about knock-offs made by companies they perceive as American. I don't think those people have any conscious racism, but somehow they've swallowed a stereotype of Asian knock-offs/American originals and that's become an unconscious prejudice -- they might not assume all Asian knives are knock-offs but they certainly seem to have a very strong assumption that all knives they perceive as American are original....
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