Elementum button lock

craytab said:
If you are looking for an axis like button lock, take a look at the Benchmade 665 APB. It is still an axis lock but is actuated by ambidextrous buttons. I have one and it is pretty neat, if not a little niche.

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That's pretty neat-looking: thanks! đź‘Ť
 
craytab said:
Hmm. I think with the civivi, the button is still doing the locking, like a traditional button lock, and the liner is giving the button the spring. The smock is an actual compression lock, where the liner does the locking like a PM2. Does that sound correct?
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Yes, see my post above. In a Smock, you can assemble the knife without the button installed and it will still work normally, you'll just have a harder time unlocking it since there's no cutout for the compression lock. On the Civivi, the liner just replaces the coil spring you normally see on a manual button lock (e.g., Malibu); if you leave the button out, you just have a blade flopping around with nothing holding it closed or open.
 
I wonder if that Benchmade 665 APB can be de-assisted?
(They treat autos and assisteds in the same way here...)
 
OrangeBlueOrangeBlue said:
Yes, see my post above. In a Smock, you can assemble the knife without the button installed and it will still work normally, you'll just have a harder time unlocking it since there's no cutout for the compression lock. On the Civivi, the liner just replaces the coil spring you normally see on a manual button lock (e.g., Malibu); if you leave the button out, you just have a blade flopping around with nothing holding it closed or open.
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Thanks for confirming. So it seems that the Elementum Button lock is not at all similar in function to the Malibu or other true button locks. And as that idea relates to the OP's question, the Elementum Button lock might be safer in pocket, since there is only one way to open the knife (with the button), unlike the Malibu which you can also open without actuating the button.
 
Bob Denman said:
I wonder if that Benchmade 665 APB can be de-assisted?
(They treat autos and assisteds in the same way here...)
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Sure can!

Update! Benchmade 665

Update in post #13! I just got one in the mail today. It is fantastic! Fit and finish are nearly perfect. Blade is centered. No blade play. Grind lines look great. Lock is very interesting and operates perfectly. One little ding in one liner. Other than that, perfect. This brings...
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...M U S T R E S I S T . . . .

Awww... Hell: I just went and pulled the trigger on one.
Thank God that I've got a very small dog: there's lots of room in the doghouse!
 
craytab said:
Thanks for confirming. So it seems that the Elementum Button lock is not at all similar in function to the Malibu or other true button locks. And as that idea relates to the OP's question, the Elementum Button lock might be safer in pocket, since there is only one way to open the knife (with the button), unlike the Malibu which you can also open without actuating the button.
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The ultimate difference is that the Elementum's tang is shaped so that the button locks in both positions.
 
OrangeBlueOrangeBlue said:
The ultimate difference is that the Elementum's tang is shaped so that the button locks in both positions.
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Right! More traditional button locks like the Malibu and all the Pro-Tech button lock autos only lock open. Significantly not similar in function!
Bob Denman said:
...M U S T R E S I S T . . . .

Awww... Hell: I just went and pulled the trigger on one.
Thank God that I've got a very small dog: there's lots of room in the doghouse!
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Pics and thoughts when you get it! Besides the button actuated axis lock, the big selling point for me was the ability to lock the blade closed, for those times when I am doing for active activities! Never liked how easy it is to shake the blade out of an axis lock knife.
 
I've only been carrying this for about a week now, and mostly around the house, but no... it has not opened in my pocket. I'm left handed and am carrying it with a reversed clip in my left pocket, so the button is facing outwards.

I tried to open it while in my pocket by pushing the button through my pants, and while I could depress the button, it didn't open. the spine of the blade is against the pocket seam, and I suspect without momentum or gravity, there's no force acting on the blade to cause it to open, nor does it have anywhere to go.
 
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