Emerson asks for your help

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Ernest Emerson

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Dear Members,

Please be advised that there are counterfeit Karambits going around that look to the average customer a lot like a real Emerson.

Here is a picture.

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Notice they have placed the "serial number" in the incorrect spot.

If you would, spread the word that an Emerson Knife that is too good to be true pricewise is not a real Emerson.

And if you would, please contact the seller or report their site wherever they are found to make it known that these are counterfeits. We've gotten 5 inquiries this week from potential buyers asking if these were real.

This is not right.

Thanks for your help.

Best Regards,

Ernest Emerson
 
Thanks for the heads up! I hate fakes!

That one resembles the profile of the fixed blade more than the folder.
 
roger that, ernest. will keep an eye out at the Janesville show but that one is pretty straight up with regulars for years. will clue in my buddy who owns a knife shop. best regards.
mike
 
My only concern about a thread like this one is that it tips off the bad guys re: how to fix their products so they look more like originals. The counterfeiters may be criminals, but they're not stupid. And if you don't think they're lurking on this forum, you're probably mistaken. This is a public forum after all.

If it were me, I'd simply say that there have been a rash of counterfeit Karambits going around recently and anyone who's concerned should contact the company at:

...fakes@emersonknives.com...

Before you do that, set up an e-mail with that address on the company's domain. Those who e-mail you there should be instructed to provide a link to the suspect product or a picture of it. The company's response should be a simple, "that's an original" or "that's a counterfeit" followed by a "where did you find it?" if that information wasn't provided in the original query.

Just a thought . . .
 
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Sad part is counterfeiters, will counterfit anything thry can make a buck off of. Everytime I go to Los Algadones BC Mexico I am surprise at all the knock off, or counterfits for sale. Everything from Rolex Watchs, Oakley Sunglasses, and most designer label jeans, purses, and sports memorbillia, and more.

Buy the way most of the American crossing into Los Algandones go there for deal on prescription drug, dental work, and eye glasses. Not the typical Mexican Border Town with strip bar, and _____. Los Algadones is full of pharmacies, dentists, doctors, serving th older population of people who cross the border for heath, dental care, and prescription at a discount.

Part of the problem is the U.S. Customs, and Border Inspector who are more conserned with stop illegals, drugs, and bomb into to ther USA. To concentrate on the thousands of counterfit, and knock off items they seem to ignore coming across the border in at this one border check point.

Caveat Emptor, aka Buyer Beware if the deal seem too good to br true, check check, and triple check before getting S****ED!
 
Going after counterfeiters is like playing whack-a-mole. You bash one's brains in and three more pop up to take its place. That's why you never want to do anything or say anything that's going to make it easier for them to ply their nefarious trade.
 
Also if your at gun shows, feel free to snatch the business cards, use a smart phone and snap a picture of their table, displays and the sellers. Fraud is fraud itself. Last weekend I saw some fairly convincing counterfeit ACOGs and other folders with fairly convincing logos.

Not cool at all.
 
I agree with BLD, those doing counterfeiting may being checking around for info on how to improve their product so it may be best to stick with an email if you find out something specific.
 
Guys, these threads do more to inform us of them than help the people making them.

Think about it, if they really wanted to perfect it all they would have to do is buy one real one themselves and copy it. If the counterfieters want to make a fake these posts won't effect their production but may help hinder their sales.
 
dr_fosg8 said:
Think about it, if they really wanted to perfect it all they would have to do is buy one real one themselves and copy it.
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That's true. Whether they do that or not, however, I still don't think it's a good idea to tell them what they're doing wrong on a public forum.
 
If they have seen the real thing they know what they are doing "wrong" they just don't want to put in the money and effort to do it right and count on the uninformed to buy them.
 
dr_fosg8 said:
If they have seen the real thing they know what they are doing "wrong" they just don't want to put in the money and effort to do it right and count on the uninformed to buy them.
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Or maybe they're just looking to see what they need to tweak to get by.
 
I am absolutely against fakes but I think that informing the buyers hurts the people making them more than any info they may get from these posts.
 
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Dude, it's an open forum. As long as I'm polite and stay on topic, I can say whatever I want to say here, right? And Ernie can take it or leave it same way you can. One way or the other, it's no skin off my nose. I don't own any Emerson knives and I don't plan to buy any, particularly Karambits. Ernie's knives aren't my style. I'm just concerned about someone I consider to be one of the good guys.

Say what you will. But if I were in the counterfeiting game, I'd love it when threads like this one come up. I mean, who better to get information from that I need to make a more convincing counterfeit than the maker of the product I'm counterfeiting?
 
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bld522, sorry for the outburst.

Your probably right, they probably do lurk around and take notes from these threads. These things being out there is crap and I guess there just isn't any way for us to inform each other of their existence without tipping them off that we know.

Back on topic, I will keep my eyes peeled while I travel the internet for these.
 
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bld522, sorry for the outburst.
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No worries. I tend not to take these things personally. :)

The real problem is the one Ernie alluded to in his OP. Counterfeiters are getting better and better at making copies that are indistinguishable from the originals. The copy of the Karambit he included in his OP is amateurish compared to some of the counterfeits I've seen. It's getting to the point where only the maker will be able to tell an original from a counterfeit. And then what will we do?

Crying foul isn't the solution. Tipping off the counterfeiters to what they're doing wrong isn't the solution. There is only one solution. Never buy a knife unless it comes from an authorized dealer.

That is all.
 
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