Kudos to sal on the endura. I have been purchasing Spydercos from forum members and a favorite mail order store for about 2 years now. I have a growing collection - they all get used (carefully) and bring joy to me every time I pull one out of my pocket. I purchased an endura 4 zdp189 about 3-4 months ago. I have been reading about the endura and thought I would try one out. I find that it has been getting harder and harder to put anything else in my pocket besides the endura. I have a bunch of spydercos and benchmades and the endura keeps jumping to the head of the line. Blade length is perfect for me. I like the strength of the saber grind. Nice and light. The zdp189 really holds an edge. The only thing I would like to see different would be a finger choil (sp?). I have been eyeing the g10 flat grind - this might be next on the list - behind the d2 para, the sage, etc., etc., etc,. Anyway, Sal - great design as always, really love your knives.